Judge (band)
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Judge was a New York-based
straight edge
band; formed in 1987 by Youth of Today
guitarist, John "Porcell" Porcelly, and former Youth of Today
drummer, Mike "Judge" Ferraro.
on Porcell's label Schism
(which he ran along with Side By Side
/ Gorilla Biscuits
guitar-player Alex Brown) entitled New York Crew
. The record featured 5 songs, one of which was a cover of "Warriors" by the British oi!
/punk
band Blitz
. On this recording, the band was merely a two-piece, featuring Porcelly on bass and guitar, and Ferraro on vocals and drums. But with the addition of bass-player Jimmy Yu
(of Mike's former band Death Before Dishonor, which eventually evolved into Supertouch) and drummer "Lukey" Luke Abbey (Warzone
/ Gorilla Biscuits
), they got together a fully functional live line-up.
The band received lots of criticism due to their militant Straight Edge
lyrics, especially from fanzines like San Francisco's Maximum Rock'N'Roll
. The militant lyrics were a conscious move on the band's part, as they were sick of seeing bands like Youth Of Today
, who in reality had a very positive message, get slagged for being too militant. So they decided to give the nay-sayers exactly what they wanted – the most militant Straight Edge
band imaginable. Mike Ferraro has later on admitted that provocation was an important aim for the band.
Judge
was not just heavy in message, the music had very metal
-influenced riffing, but remained close to its hardcore
roots, without going all out metal, such as bands like Agnostic Front
and DRI
.
With a new line-up of Sammy Siegler
(Side By Side
/ Youth Of Today
/ Project X
etc.) on drums and Matt Pincus on bass, the band proceeded to record their full-length LP Bringin' It Down
for Revelation Records
at Chung King Studios
in New York City
. The recording was finished, but the band were so unhappy with the result that they decided to scrap it and re-record it at Normandy Sound in Rhode Island
, where The Cro-Mags had recorded their Best Wishes
album. Revelation
did however put out a limited pressing of the original recording, fittingly titled Chung King Can Suck It (LP)
. It was given to people who had pre-ordered the record, and with only 110 copies pressed (all on white vinyl), it is one of the most sought-after hardcore records in existence, going for as much as $3,350.00+ USD on online auction sites such as eBay
.
Eventually, Bringin' It Down was released in 1989. Judge
continued touring up until 1991, and even released another 7" EP, There Will Be Quiet, featuring "The Storm" and "Forget This Time" (the CD-version also contains a cover-version of "When the Levee Breaks
", originally by Led Zeppelin
).
went on to tour and record with Hare Krishna hardcore band Shelter
(featuring Ray Cappo
of Youth Of Today
, as well as a revolving line-up of more and less well-known hardcore musicians, including Tom Capone
of Bold
and Quicksand
, and Vic DiCara
of Beyond, Inside Out, and 108
). Porcelly later started the bands Never Surrender and Last of the Famous, and ran a record label called Fight Fire With Fire and the website TrueTillDeath.com, but all these projects seem to be either scrapped or inactive. He played with the reunited Bold
in 2005–06, and a book chronicling all issues of his fanzine Schism
was also released in late 2005.
Mike Ferraro (musician) continued in the band Mike Judge & Old Smoke, a band playing Neil Young
-inspired acoustic music. They released a 12" on Revelation Records
in 1993.
Sammy Siegler
played in several late 80's/early 90's hardcore bands, either regularly or as a replacement. In the mid-late 90's he recorded and toured with the band CIV, featuring Anthony Civarelli and Arthur Smilios of Gorilla Biscuits
. He has also appeared in Shelter
, and major label rock band Rival Schools
, featuring Walter Schreifels
(also of Gorilla Biscuits
, as well as Quicksand
and several other bands). In 2005 he joined Limp Bizkit
as temporary replacement for drummer John Otto
.
Matt Pincus currently runs the NYC-based record label Some Records, which has released records from bands like Hot Water Music
, Errortype 11 and Beyond.
Jimmy Yu
became a Chan/Zen
Buddhist monk in 1991 under the name Guogu, and now teaches Buddhism
and meditation under the direction of Chan/Zen
Master Sheng Yen. Yu is currently an Assistant Professor of Religion at Florida State University. Yu received his Ph.D. from Princeton University's Department of Religion in 2008. Yu teaches courses in East Asian religious traditions, specializing in Chinese and Japanese Buddhism and late imperial Chinese cultural history. His research interests include the cultural history of the body, Buddhist monasticism, Chan/Zen Buddhism, and popular religions within the broader context of fifteenth to seventeenth centuries China. Here is a 2008 Double Cross Hardcore fanzine interview with Jimmy Yu in which he talks about growing up in the hardcore scene.
New York hardcore
New York hardcore refers to hardcore punk and metalcore music created in New York City and to the subculture associated with that music. New York hardcore grew out of the hardcore scene established in Washington, D.C., by bands such as Bad Brains and Minor Threat. Hardcore '81 is an album by the...
straight edge
Straight edge
Straight edge is a subculture of hardcore punk whose adherents refrain from using alcohol, tobacco, and other recreational drugs. It was a direct reaction to the sexual revolution, hedonism, and excess associated with punk rock. For some, this extends to not engaging in promiscuous sex, following a...
band; formed in 1987 by Youth of Today
Youth of Today
Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk straight edge band, formed in 1985 and still in activity. The band played a major role in establishing the Youth Crew subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies of the straight edge and vegetarian lifestyles.-History:Youth Of...
guitarist, John "Porcell" Porcelly, and former Youth of Today
Youth of Today
Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk straight edge band, formed in 1985 and still in activity. The band played a major role in establishing the Youth Crew subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies of the straight edge and vegetarian lifestyles.-History:Youth Of...
drummer, Mike "Judge" Ferraro.
History
Their first release was a 7" EPExtended play
An EP is a musical recording which contains more music than a single, but is too short to qualify as a full album or LP. The term EP originally referred only to specific types of vinyl records other than 78 rpm standard play records and LP records, but it is now applied to mid-length Compact...
on Porcell's label Schism
Schism Records
Schism was a hardcore record label and fanzine operated out of New York City in the late 1980s by John Porcelly and Alex Brown . Schism started out as the fanzine, Love Seat, which Brown put out while still living in Iowa...
(which he ran along with Side By Side
Side By Side (band)
Side By Side was an American hardcore punk band on Revelation Records. They were a band from NY of youth crew persuasion. Recorded output was limited to a single 7", You're Only Young Once... Their 7" was the fifth record released by Revelation Records....
/ Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits are a New York City-based vegan straight edge hardcore band consisting of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios, Alex Brown and Luke Abbey. The band is currently signed to Revelation Records.-Early career:...
guitar-player Alex Brown) entitled New York Crew
New York Crew
This entry is not about the art-poetics collective the New York CrewNew York Crew was a 7" EP released by the New York City hardcore band Judge. The record was released on guitarist John Porcelly's record label, Schism Records, in 1988...
. The record featured 5 songs, one of which was a cover of "Warriors" by the British oi!
Oi!
Oi! is a working class subgenre of punk rock that originated in the United Kingdom in the late 1970s. The music and its associated subculture had the goal of bringing together punks, skinheads and other working-class youths ....
/punk
Punk rock
Punk rock is a rock music genre that developed between 1974 and 1976 in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia. Rooted in garage rock and other forms of what is now known as protopunk music, punk rock bands eschewed perceived excesses of mainstream 1970s rock...
band Blitz
Blitz (band)
Blitz was a street punk band from New Mills, Derbyshire, England. They had success in the United Kingdom indie charts in the early 1980s. With both punk and skinhead members, they were enthusiastically championed by Sounds magazine writer Garry Bushell, though guitarist Nidge would later go on to...
. On this recording, the band was merely a two-piece, featuring Porcelly on bass and guitar, and Ferraro on vocals and drums. But with the addition of bass-player Jimmy Yu
Jimmy Yu
Jimmy Yu was the bassist for the American 1980s hardcore bands, Death Before Dishonor and Judge. After his hardcore straight edge days, he returned to Buddhism and became a monk under Chan/Zen Master . In 2000, he left monasticism to pursue academia. He received an MA degree in Chinese Buddhist...
(of Mike's former band Death Before Dishonor, which eventually evolved into Supertouch) and drummer "Lukey" Luke Abbey (Warzone
Warzone (band)
Warzone was an American hardcore punk band formed on the Lower East Side of Manhattan in 1982. The band helped develop the New York hardcore sound, the hardcore skinhead style and the youth crew subgenre...
/ Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits are a New York City-based vegan straight edge hardcore band consisting of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios, Alex Brown and Luke Abbey. The band is currently signed to Revelation Records.-Early career:...
), they got together a fully functional live line-up.
The band received lots of criticism due to their militant Straight Edge
Straight edge
Straight edge is a subculture of hardcore punk whose adherents refrain from using alcohol, tobacco, and other recreational drugs. It was a direct reaction to the sexual revolution, hedonism, and excess associated with punk rock. For some, this extends to not engaging in promiscuous sex, following a...
lyrics, especially from fanzines like San Francisco's Maximum Rock'N'Roll
Maximum RocknRoll
Maximum rocknroll is a widely distributed, monthly not-for-profit fanzine based in San Francisco, USA. It features interviews, columns, and reviews from international contributors...
. The militant lyrics were a conscious move on the band's part, as they were sick of seeing bands like Youth Of Today
Youth of Today
Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk straight edge band, formed in 1985 and still in activity. The band played a major role in establishing the Youth Crew subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies of the straight edge and vegetarian lifestyles.-History:Youth Of...
, who in reality had a very positive message, get slagged for being too militant. So they decided to give the nay-sayers exactly what they wanted – the most militant Straight Edge
Straight edge
Straight edge is a subculture of hardcore punk whose adherents refrain from using alcohol, tobacco, and other recreational drugs. It was a direct reaction to the sexual revolution, hedonism, and excess associated with punk rock. For some, this extends to not engaging in promiscuous sex, following a...
band imaginable. Mike Ferraro has later on admitted that provocation was an important aim for the band.
Judge
Judge
A judge is a person who presides over court proceedings, either alone or as part of a panel of judges. The powers, functions, method of appointment, discipline, and training of judges vary widely across different jurisdictions. The judge is supposed to conduct the trial impartially and in an open...
was not just heavy in message, the music had very metal
Heavy metal music
Heavy metal is a genre of rock music that developed in the late 1960s and early 1970s, largely in the Midlands of the United Kingdom and the United States...
-influenced riffing, but remained close to its hardcore
Hardcore punk
Hardcore punk is an underground music genre that originated in the late 1970s, following the mainstream success of punk rock. Hardcore is generally faster, thicker, and heavier than earlier punk rock. The origin of the term "hardcore punk" is uncertain. The Vancouver-based band D.O.A...
roots, without going all out metal, such as bands like Agnostic Front
Agnostic Front
Agnostic Front is an American hardcore band. The band began playing hardcore similar to their contemporaries, and were thrust to the forefront of the burgeoning New York hardcore scene in the mid-1980s with their widely regarded 1984 classic Victim in Pain before evolving to incorporate thrash...
and DRI
Dirty Rotten Imbeciles
Dirty Rotten Imbeciles is a thrash metal/crossover thrash band from the United States that formed in Houston, in 1982. The band currently comprises founding members, vocalist Kurt Brecht and guitarist Spike Cassidy, as well as drummer Rob Rampy and bassist Harald Oimoen.D.R.I...
.
With a new line-up of Sammy Siegler
Sammy Siegler
Sammy Siegler is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene.-With Side By Side:* New York City Hardcore - Together compilation...
(Side By Side
Side By Side (band)
Side By Side was an American hardcore punk band on Revelation Records. They were a band from NY of youth crew persuasion. Recorded output was limited to a single 7", You're Only Young Once... Their 7" was the fifth record released by Revelation Records....
/ Youth Of Today
Youth of Today
Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk straight edge band, formed in 1985 and still in activity. The band played a major role in establishing the Youth Crew subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies of the straight edge and vegetarian lifestyles.-History:Youth Of...
/ Project X
Project X (band)
Project X was a short-lived hardcore punk/youth crew band from New York City, and also the name of their only release, being a five-track EP. The band consisted of members of other prominent NYC hardcore bands Gorilla Biscuits, Youth of Today, Side by Side and Judge.The band started when John...
etc.) on drums and Matt Pincus on bass, the band proceeded to record their full-length LP Bringin' It Down
Bringin' It Down
Bringin' It Down is an LP released by the New York band Judge. It was released on Revelation Records in 1989. The original recording of the album was released under the title Chung King Can Suck It...
for Revelation Records
Revelation Records
Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
at Chung King Studios
Chung King Studios
Chung King Recording Studios, formerly known as The Chung King House Of Metal, is a New York City recording studio founded by John King with financial backing of the Etches brothers and engineer expertise of Steve Ett became a site of many classic punk and hip hop recordings...
in New York City
New York City
New York is the most populous city in the United States and the center of the New York Metropolitan Area, one of the most populous metropolitan areas in the world. New York exerts a significant impact upon global commerce, finance, media, art, fashion, research, technology, education, and...
. The recording was finished, but the band were so unhappy with the result that they decided to scrap it and re-record it at Normandy Sound in Rhode Island
Rhode Island
The state of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, more commonly referred to as Rhode Island , is a state in the New England region of the United States. It is the smallest U.S. state by area...
, where The Cro-Mags had recorded their Best Wishes
Best Wishes
Best Wishes is the second album by New York hardcore band, Cro-Mags. It was released in 1989 on Profile Records and was subsequently re-released on Another Planet – along with their debut album, The Age Of Quarrel, on the same disc....
album. Revelation
Revelation Records
Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
did however put out a limited pressing of the original recording, fittingly titled Chung King Can Suck It (LP)
Chung King Can Suck It (LP)
Chung King Can Suck It is a limited-pressing colored vinyl album by New York City band Judge, containing the original version of what was to be the Bringin' It Down album...
. It was given to people who had pre-ordered the record, and with only 110 copies pressed (all on white vinyl), it is one of the most sought-after hardcore records in existence, going for as much as $3,350.00+ USD on online auction sites such as eBay
EBay
eBay Inc. is an American internet consumer-to-consumer corporation that manages eBay.com, an online auction and shopping website in which people and businesses buy and sell a broad variety of goods and services worldwide...
.
Eventually, Bringin' It Down was released in 1989. Judge
Judge
A judge is a person who presides over court proceedings, either alone or as part of a panel of judges. The powers, functions, method of appointment, discipline, and training of judges vary widely across different jurisdictions. The judge is supposed to conduct the trial impartially and in an open...
continued touring up until 1991, and even released another 7" EP, There Will Be Quiet, featuring "The Storm" and "Forget This Time" (the CD-version also contains a cover-version of "When the Levee Breaks
When the Levee Breaks
"When the Levee Breaks" is a blues song written and first recorded by husband and wife Kansas Joe McCoy and Memphis Minnie in 1929. The song is in reaction to the upheaval caused by the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927....
", originally by Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin were an English rock band, active in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s. Formed in 1968, they consisted of guitarist Jimmy Page, singer Robert Plant, bassist/keyboardist John Paul Jones, and drummer John Bonham...
).
Careers after Judge
John PorcellyJohn Porcelly
John 'Porcell' Porcelly was the guitarist for the American 1980s hardcore bands Young Republicans, Violent Children, Youth Of Today and Judge. He also sang in Project X , and has had stints in other bands such as Bold and Gorilla Biscuits...
went on to tour and record with Hare Krishna hardcore band Shelter
Shelter (band)
Shelter is a Hare Krishna hardcore punk band formed by Ray Cappo.-Brief recent history:In 2001, the band released the album The Purpose, The Passion...
(featuring Ray Cappo
Ray Cappo
Ray Cappo is the former vocalist for the hardcore bands Youth of Today, Reflex From Pain, Shelter, Better Than A Thousand, and the project recording "Pour Water On It". This icon of New York hardcore was originally from Connecticut, and played drums for the Connecticut band Violent Children...
of Youth Of Today
Youth of Today
Youth of Today is an American hardcore punk straight edge band, formed in 1985 and still in activity. The band played a major role in establishing the Youth Crew subculture of hardcore, both espousing and evolving the philosophies of the straight edge and vegetarian lifestyles.-History:Youth Of...
, as well as a revolving line-up of more and less well-known hardcore musicians, including Tom Capone
Tom Capone
Tom Capone Born Luiz Antonio Ferreira Gonçalves, Tom Capone was a Brazilian music producer and guitar player. Born in Brasilia, Brazil, he died in Los Angeles hours after leaving the 2004 Latin Grammy Awards show when his motorcycle collided with a car. He had been nominated for five Latin Grammy...
of Bold
Bold (band)
Bold is a late 1980s youth crew hardcore band from Westchester County, New York, which along with bands like Youth Of Today and Side By Side were a part of the Youth Crew, and an influence in the late 80's straight edge hardcore scene...
and Quicksand
Quicksand (band)
Quicksand was an American post-hardcore band from New York City founded in 1990 by singer/songwriter Walter Schreifels. Their debut self-titled EP was followed by two major label albums, Slip and Manic Compression...
, and Vic DiCara
Vic DiCara
Vic DiCara is a hardcore punk guitarist, vocalist and bassist. He played in Beyond, Inside Out, Shelter, Burn, and later the Hare Krishna band 108. As part of the band 108, DiCara was instrumental in recording three albums considered influential in the hardcore punk scene of the 1990s. DiCara is...
of Beyond, Inside Out, and 108
108 (band)
108 is an American hardcore band founded in 1991. Their music reflected the Hare Krishna faith of its members. Their name comes from the number of beads on the Japa mala, or mantra counting beads.- History :...
). Porcelly later started the bands Never Surrender and Last of the Famous, and ran a record label called Fight Fire With Fire and the website TrueTillDeath.com, but all these projects seem to be either scrapped or inactive. He played with the reunited Bold
Bold (band)
Bold is a late 1980s youth crew hardcore band from Westchester County, New York, which along with bands like Youth Of Today and Side By Side were a part of the Youth Crew, and an influence in the late 80's straight edge hardcore scene...
in 2005–06, and a book chronicling all issues of his fanzine Schism
Schism Records
Schism was a hardcore record label and fanzine operated out of New York City in the late 1980s by John Porcelly and Alex Brown . Schism started out as the fanzine, Love Seat, which Brown put out while still living in Iowa...
was also released in late 2005.
Mike Ferraro (musician) continued in the band Mike Judge & Old Smoke, a band playing Neil Young
Neil Young
Neil Percival Young, OC, OM is a Canadian singer-songwriter who is widely regarded as one of the most influential musicians of his generation...
-inspired acoustic music. They released a 12" on Revelation Records
Revelation Records
Revelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
in 1993.
Sammy Siegler
Sammy Siegler
Sammy Siegler is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene.-With Side By Side:* New York City Hardcore - Together compilation...
played in several late 80's/early 90's hardcore bands, either regularly or as a replacement. In the mid-late 90's he recorded and toured with the band CIV, featuring Anthony Civarelli and Arthur Smilios of Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits are a New York City-based vegan straight edge hardcore band consisting of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios, Alex Brown and Luke Abbey. The band is currently signed to Revelation Records.-Early career:...
. He has also appeared in Shelter
Shelter (band)
Shelter is a Hare Krishna hardcore punk band formed by Ray Cappo.-Brief recent history:In 2001, the band released the album The Purpose, The Passion...
, and major label rock band Rival Schools
Rival Schools (band)
Rival Schools are a post-hardcore band from New York signed to Photo Finish Records, featuring Walter Schreifels on vocals and guitar; Ian Love on guitar; Cache Tolman on bass guitar; and Sam Siegler on drums....
, featuring Walter Schreifels
Walter Schreifels
Walter Schreifels is a rock musician and producer from New York City.In the late 1980s, he played in many New York hardcore bands, most notably Youth Of Today and Gorilla Biscuits . After Gorilla Biscuits broke up, he formed the short lived Moondog...
(also of Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits
Gorilla Biscuits are a New York City-based vegan straight edge hardcore band consisting of Anthony "Civ" Civarelli, Walter Schreifels, Arthur Smilios, Alex Brown and Luke Abbey. The band is currently signed to Revelation Records.-Early career:...
, as well as Quicksand
Quicksand (band)
Quicksand was an American post-hardcore band from New York City founded in 1990 by singer/songwriter Walter Schreifels. Their debut self-titled EP was followed by two major label albums, Slip and Manic Compression...
and several other bands). In 2005 he joined Limp Bizkit
Limp Bizkit
Limp Bizkit is an American rock band from Jacksonville, Florida. Formed in 1995, the group's lineup consists of Fred Durst , Wes Borland , Sam Rivers , John Otto and DJ Lethal . The band achieved mainstream success with their second studio album Significant Other, released in 1999...
as temporary replacement for drummer John Otto
John Otto (drummer)
John Everett Otto is the drummer and co-founder of the band Limp Bizkit.-Limp Bizkit:Otto, along with his cousin Sam Rivers, and Fred Durst, founded Limp Bizkit in 1994, while attending Douglas Anderson School of the Arts...
.
Matt Pincus currently runs the NYC-based record label Some Records, which has released records from bands like Hot Water Music
Hot Water Music
Hot Water Music is a punk rock band from Gainesville, Florida. The members of the band are Chuck Ragan, Chris Wollard, Jason Black, and George Rebelo. HWM first formed in 1993...
, Errortype 11 and Beyond.
Jimmy Yu
Jimmy Yu
Jimmy Yu was the bassist for the American 1980s hardcore bands, Death Before Dishonor and Judge. After his hardcore straight edge days, he returned to Buddhism and became a monk under Chan/Zen Master . In 2000, he left monasticism to pursue academia. He received an MA degree in Chinese Buddhist...
became a Chan/Zen
Zen
Zen is a school of Mahāyāna Buddhism founded by the Buddhist monk Bodhidharma. The word Zen is from the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese word Chán , which in turn is derived from the Sanskrit word dhyāna, which can be approximately translated as "meditation" or "meditative state."Zen...
Buddhist monk in 1991 under the name Guogu, and now teaches Buddhism
Buddhism
Buddhism is a religion and philosophy encompassing a variety of traditions, beliefs and practices, largely based on teachings attributed to Siddhartha Gautama, commonly known as the Buddha . The Buddha lived and taught in the northeastern Indian subcontinent some time between the 6th and 4th...
and meditation under the direction of Chan/Zen
Zen
Zen is a school of Mahāyāna Buddhism founded by the Buddhist monk Bodhidharma. The word Zen is from the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese word Chán , which in turn is derived from the Sanskrit word dhyāna, which can be approximately translated as "meditation" or "meditative state."Zen...
Master Sheng Yen. Yu is currently an Assistant Professor of Religion at Florida State University. Yu received his Ph.D. from Princeton University's Department of Religion in 2008. Yu teaches courses in East Asian religious traditions, specializing in Chinese and Japanese Buddhism and late imperial Chinese cultural history. His research interests include the cultural history of the body, Buddhist monasticism, Chan/Zen Buddhism, and popular religions within the broader context of fifteenth to seventeenth centuries China. Here is a 2008 Double Cross Hardcore fanzine interview with Jimmy Yu in which he talks about growing up in the hardcore scene.
Official releases
- New York CrewNew York CrewThis entry is not about the art-poetics collective the New York CrewNew York Crew was a 7" EP released by the New York City hardcore band Judge. The record was released on guitarist John Porcelly's record label, Schism Records, in 1988...
7" EP (Schism RecordsSchism RecordsSchism was a hardcore record label and fanzine operated out of New York City in the late 1980s by John Porcelly and Alex Brown . Schism started out as the fanzine, Love Seat, which Brown put out while still living in Iowa...
(SKIZ-2) (1988) / Revelation RecordsRevelation RecordsRevelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
(REV 14)) (1989)- 3000 copies in 3 pressings on SchismSchism RecordsSchism was a hardcore record label and fanzine operated out of New York City in the late 1980s by John Porcelly and Alex Brown . Schism started out as the fanzine, Love Seat, which Brown put out while still living in Iowa...
. - Later re-pressed on Revelation, with a picture label of Sammy SieglerSammy SieglerSammy Siegler is an American rock drummer, notable for his many contributions to the New York hardcore scene.-With Side By Side:* New York City Hardcore - Together compilation...
ripping off a "have your id's ready" sign in front of CBGB's. The 1st press was 4000 black and 1000 blue vinyl. It has later been repressed in the thousands.
- 3000 copies in 3 pressings on Schism
- Chung King Can Suck It (LP)Chung King Can Suck It (LP)Chung King Can Suck It is a limited-pressing colored vinyl album by New York City band Judge, containing the original version of what was to be the Bringin' It Down album...
LP (Revelation RecordsRevelation RecordsRevelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
(REV −1))- One-time press of 110 on white vinyl.
- Bringin' It DownBringin' It DownBringin' It Down is an LP released by the New York band Judge. It was released on Revelation Records in 1989. The original recording of the album was released under the title Chung King Can Suck It...
LP (Revelation RecordsRevelation RecordsRevelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
(REV 15)) (1989)- 1st press: 5458 black vinyl, 712 green vinyl, purple labels.
- 2nd press: black vinyl, red labels.
- 3rd press (and beyond): black vinyl, maroon labels.
- Final press (2001): 333 orange vinyl.
- There Will Be Quiet... 7" EP (Revelation RecordsRevelation RecordsRevelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
(REV 20)) (1990)- 4000 black vinyl, 1000 gold vinyl.
- What It Meant: The Complete DiscographyWhat It Meant: The Complete DiscographyWhat It Meant: The Complete Discography is a compact disc compilation featuring all of the known studio recordings by influential American hardcore punk band Judge...
CD/2xLP (Revelation RecordsRevelation RecordsRevelation Records is an independent record label focusing originally and primarily on hardcore punk. The label is known for its role in the evolution of hardcore and metallic post-hardcore with important releases by bands such as Youth of Today, Warzone, Sick of It All, Quicksand, Side By Side,...
(REV 122)- Contains all of Judge's recorded output, including Chung King Can Suck It for the first time on an official, non-limited Revelation release.
Bootlegs
- Revelation Can Suck It 10" (Revoltation Records) (1992)
- Contains the recording that appears on the limited
'Chung King Can Suck It' LP, but on a 10" format.
- Contains the recording that appears on the limited
- No Apologies: The Chung King Sessions LP (Lost & Found Records (LF033)) (1992)
- Another bootleg of the Chung King... LP. Also has 4 additional bonus tracks.
- Vivo En WNYU 7"
- Contains part of the band's 1988 appearance on the 'Crucial Chaos' radioRadioRadio is the transmission of signals through free space by modulation of electromagnetic waves with frequencies below those of visible light. Electromagnetic radiation travels by means of oscillating electromagnetic fields that pass through the air and the vacuum of space...
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. - 500 black vinyl, 50 red vinyl, xeroxed sleeve.
- Contains part of the band's 1988 appearance on the 'Crucial Chaos' radio
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