John Vance (MP)
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John Vance was a Conservative
Conservative Party (UK)
The Conservative Party, formally the Conservative and Unionist Party, is a centre-right political party in the United Kingdom that adheres to the philosophies of conservatism and British unionism. It is the largest political party in the UK, and is currently the largest single party in the House...

 MP
Member of Parliament
A Member of Parliament is a representative of the voters to a :parliament. In many countries with bicameral parliaments, the term applies specifically to members of the lower house, as upper houses often have a different title, such as senate, and thus also have different titles for its members,...

 for Dublin City
Dublin City (UK Parliament constituency)
Dublin City was an Irish Borough constituency in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. It comprised the city of Dublin in the county of Dublin, and was represented by two Members of Parliament from its creation in 1801 until 1885.In 1885, Dublin City was split...

 from 1852 until his defeat in 1865. He was later elected unopposed for Armagh City
Armagh City (UK Parliament constituency)
Armagh City was a United Kingdom Parliament constituency, in Ireland.-Boundaries:This constituency was the parliamentary borough of Armagh in County Armagh...

 and represented the constituency from 30 June 1867 until his death.

In the 1847 General Election
United Kingdom general election, 1847
-Seats summary:-References:* F. W. S. Craig, British Electoral Facts: 1832-1987* British Electoral Facts 1832-1999, compiled and edited by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher *...

 Vance was unsuccessful in his attempts to be elected for Canterbury
Canterbury (UK Parliament constituency)
Canterbury is a county constituency which has been represented in the House of Commons of the Parliament of the United Kingdom since 1918. It elects one Member of Parliament by the first past the post system of election....

. In 1853 the Canterbury Bribery Commission found his agent guilty of bribery
Bribery
Bribery, a form of corruption, is an act implying money or gift giving that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or...

.

General Election, 1852
United Kingdom general election, 1852
The July 1852 United Kingdom general election was a watershed election in the formation of the modern political parties of Britain. Following 1852, the Tory/Conservative party became, more completely, the party of the rural aristocracy, while the Whig/Liberal party became the party of the rising...

 (2 seats)

The Times
The Times
The Times is a British daily national newspaper, first published in London in 1785 under the title The Daily Universal Register . The Times and its sister paper The Sunday Times are published by Times Newspapers Limited, a subsidiary since 1981 of News International...

 reports Vance's address to the electors as all that the Protestant Party could reasonably or unreasonably desire. The Dublin Orange Lodges pronounce for him. He is against the Maynooth Grant
Maynooth Grant
The Maynooth Grant was a major British political controversy of the 1840s which arose partly due to the general anti-Irish and anti-Catholic feelings of the British population....

.
  1. Edward Grogan (Conservative) 4,531 (37.82%)
  2. John Vance 4,429 (36.97%)
  3. John Reynolds (Liberal - Independent Opposition) 3,019 (25.20%)

General Election, 1857
United Kingdom general election, 1857
-Seats summary:-References:*F. W. S. Craig, British Electoral Facts: 1832-1987* British Electoral Facts 1832-1999, compiled and edited by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher *...

 (2 seats)

  1. Edward Grogan 3,767 (26.47%)
  2. John Vance 3,711 (26.08%)
  3. Francis William Brady (Liberal) 3,405 (23.93%)
  4. John Reynolds (Liberal) 3,348 (23.53%)

General Election, 1859
United Kingdom general election, 1859
In the 1859 United Kingdom general election, the Whigs, led by Lord Palmerston, held their majority in the House of Commons over the Earl of Derby's Conservatives...

 (2 seats)

  1. Sir Edward Grogan, Bt 4,251 (26.03%)
  2. John Vance 4,224 (25.86%)
  3. Francis William Brady 3,976 (24.34%)
  4. Alexander McCarthy (Liberal) 3,881 (23.76%)

General Election, 1865
United Kingdom general election, 1865
The 1865 United Kingdom general election saw the Liberals, led by Lord Palmerston, increase their large majority over the Earl of Derby's Conservatives to more than 80. The Whig Party changed its name to the Liberal Party between the previous election and this one.Palmerston died later in the same...

 (2 seats)

  1. Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness, Bt (Conservative) 4,739 (35.19%)
  2. Jonathan Pim (Liberal) 4,653 (34.56%)
  3. John Vance 4,073 (30.25%)

On Vance's defeat the Cork Examiner stated that Pim typified Dublin's reformation from unlightened and unadorned Orangeism.
John Vance (died 21 September 1875) was a Conservative
Conservative Party (UK)
The Conservative Party, formally the Conservative and Unionist Party, is a centre-right political party in the United Kingdom that adheres to the philosophies of conservatism and British unionism. It is the largest political party in the UK, and is currently the largest single party in the House...

 MP
Member of Parliament
A Member of Parliament is a representative of the voters to a :parliament. In many countries with bicameral parliaments, the term applies specifically to members of the lower house, as upper houses often have a different title, such as senate, and thus also have different titles for its members,...

 for Dublin City
Dublin City (UK Parliament constituency)
Dublin City was an Irish Borough constituency in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. It comprised the city of Dublin in the county of Dublin, and was represented by two Members of Parliament from its creation in 1801 until 1885.In 1885, Dublin City was split...

 from 1852 until his defeat in 1865. He was later elected unopposed for Armagh City
Armagh City (UK Parliament constituency)
Armagh City was a United Kingdom Parliament constituency, in Ireland.-Boundaries:This constituency was the parliamentary borough of Armagh in County Armagh...

The Times, Ireland, 1 Feb 1867; pg7 col E and represented the constituency from 30 June 1867 until his death.

In the 1847 General Election
United Kingdom general election, 1847
-Seats summary:-References:* F. W. S. Craig, British Electoral Facts: 1832-1987* British Electoral Facts 1832-1999, compiled and edited by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher *...

 Vance was unsuccessful in his attempts to be elected for Canterbury
Canterbury (UK Parliament constituency)
Canterbury is a county constituency which has been represented in the House of Commons of the Parliament of the United Kingdom since 1918. It elects one Member of Parliament by the first past the post system of election....

. In 1853 the Canterbury Bribery Commission found his agent guilty of bribery
Bribery
Bribery, a form of corruption, is an act implying money or gift giving that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or...

.The Times, Canterbury Bribery Commission 2 Aug 02 1853; pg5 col D

General Election, 1852
United Kingdom general election, 1852
The July 1852 United Kingdom general election was a watershed election in the formation of the modern political parties of Britain. Following 1852, the Tory/Conservative party became, more completely, the party of the rural aristocracy, while the Whig/Liberal party became the party of the rising...

 (2 seats)

The Times
The Times
The Times is a British daily national newspaper, first published in London in 1785 under the title The Daily Universal Register . The Times and its sister paper The Sunday Times are published by Times Newspapers Limited, a subsidiary since 1981 of News International...

 reports Vance's address to the electors as all that the Protestant Party could reasonably or unreasonably desire. The Dublin Orange Lodges pronounce for him. He is against the Maynooth Grant
Maynooth Grant
The Maynooth Grant was a major British political controversy of the 1840s which arose partly due to the general anti-Irish and anti-Catholic feelings of the British population....

.
  1. Edward Grogan (Conservative) 4,531 (37.82%)
  2. John Vance 4,429 (36.97%)
  3. John Reynolds (Liberal - Independent Opposition) 3,019 (25.20%)

General Election, 1857
United Kingdom general election, 1857
-Seats summary:-References:*F. W. S. Craig, British Electoral Facts: 1832-1987* British Electoral Facts 1832-1999, compiled and edited by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher *...

 (2 seats)

  1. Edward Grogan 3,767 (26.47%)
  2. John Vance 3,711 (26.08%)
  3. Francis William Brady (Liberal) 3,405 (23.93%)
  4. John Reynolds (Liberal) 3,348 (23.53%)

General Election, 1859
United Kingdom general election, 1859
In the 1859 United Kingdom general election, the Whigs, led by Lord Palmerston, held their majority in the House of Commons over the Earl of Derby's Conservatives...

 (2 seats)

  1. Sir Edward Grogan, Bt 4,251 (26.03%)
  2. John Vance 4,224 (25.86%)
  3. Francis William Brady 3,976 (24.34%)
  4. Alexander McCarthy (Liberal) 3,881 (23.76%)

General Election, 1865
United Kingdom general election, 1865
The 1865 United Kingdom general election saw the Liberals, led by Lord Palmerston, increase their large majority over the Earl of Derby's Conservatives to more than 80. The Whig Party changed its name to the Liberal Party between the previous election and this one.Palmerston died later in the same...

 (2 seats)

  1. Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness, Bt (Conservative) 4,739 (35.19%)
  2. Jonathan Pim (Liberal) 4,653 (34.56%)
  3. John Vance 4,073 (30.25%)

On Vance's defeat the Cork Examiner stated that Pim typified Dublin's reformation from unlightened and unadorned Orangeism.
John Vance (died 21 September 1875) was a Conservative
Conservative Party (UK)
The Conservative Party, formally the Conservative and Unionist Party, is a centre-right political party in the United Kingdom that adheres to the philosophies of conservatism and British unionism. It is the largest political party in the UK, and is currently the largest single party in the House...

 MP
Member of Parliament
A Member of Parliament is a representative of the voters to a :parliament. In many countries with bicameral parliaments, the term applies specifically to members of the lower house, as upper houses often have a different title, such as senate, and thus also have different titles for its members,...

 for Dublin City
Dublin City (UK Parliament constituency)
Dublin City was an Irish Borough constituency in the House of Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. It comprised the city of Dublin in the county of Dublin, and was represented by two Members of Parliament from its creation in 1801 until 1885.In 1885, Dublin City was split...

 from 1852 until his defeat in 1865. He was later elected unopposed for Armagh City
Armagh City (UK Parliament constituency)
Armagh City was a United Kingdom Parliament constituency, in Ireland.-Boundaries:This constituency was the parliamentary borough of Armagh in County Armagh...

The Times, Ireland, 1 Feb 1867; pg7 col E and represented the constituency from 30 June 1867 until his death.

In the 1847 General Election
United Kingdom general election, 1847
-Seats summary:-References:* F. W. S. Craig, British Electoral Facts: 1832-1987* British Electoral Facts 1832-1999, compiled and edited by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher *...

 Vance was unsuccessful in his attempts to be elected for Canterbury
Canterbury (UK Parliament constituency)
Canterbury is a county constituency which has been represented in the House of Commons of the Parliament of the United Kingdom since 1918. It elects one Member of Parliament by the first past the post system of election....

. In 1853 the Canterbury Bribery Commission found his agent guilty of bribery
Bribery
Bribery, a form of corruption, is an act implying money or gift giving that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or...

.The Times, Canterbury Bribery Commission 2 Aug 02 1853; pg5 col D

General Election, 1852
United Kingdom general election, 1852
The July 1852 United Kingdom general election was a watershed election in the formation of the modern political parties of Britain. Following 1852, the Tory/Conservative party became, more completely, the party of the rural aristocracy, while the Whig/Liberal party became the party of the rising...

 (2 seats)

The Times
The Times
The Times is a British daily national newspaper, first published in London in 1785 under the title The Daily Universal Register . The Times and its sister paper The Sunday Times are published by Times Newspapers Limited, a subsidiary since 1981 of News International...

 reports Vance's address to the electors as all that the Protestant Party could reasonably or unreasonably desire. The Dublin Orange Lodges pronounce for him. He is against the Maynooth Grant
Maynooth Grant
The Maynooth Grant was a major British political controversy of the 1840s which arose partly due to the general anti-Irish and anti-Catholic feelings of the British population....

.
  1. Edward Grogan (Conservative) 4,531 (37.82%)
  2. John Vance 4,429 (36.97%)
  3. John Reynolds (Liberal - Independent Opposition) 3,019 (25.20%)

General Election, 1857
United Kingdom general election, 1857
-Seats summary:-References:*F. W. S. Craig, British Electoral Facts: 1832-1987* British Electoral Facts 1832-1999, compiled and edited by Colin Rallings and Michael Thrasher *...

 (2 seats)

  1. Edward Grogan 3,767 (26.47%)
  2. John Vance 3,711 (26.08%)
  3. Francis William Brady (Liberal) 3,405 (23.93%)
  4. John Reynolds (Liberal) 3,348 (23.53%)

General Election, 1859
United Kingdom general election, 1859
In the 1859 United Kingdom general election, the Whigs, led by Lord Palmerston, held their majority in the House of Commons over the Earl of Derby's Conservatives...

 (2 seats)

  1. Sir Edward Grogan, Bt 4,251 (26.03%)
  2. John Vance 4,224 (25.86%)
  3. Francis William Brady 3,976 (24.34%)
  4. Alexander McCarthy (Liberal) 3,881 (23.76%)

General Election, 1865
United Kingdom general election, 1865
The 1865 United Kingdom general election saw the Liberals, led by Lord Palmerston, increase their large majority over the Earl of Derby's Conservatives to more than 80. The Whig Party changed its name to the Liberal Party between the previous election and this one.Palmerston died later in the same...

 (2 seats)

  1. Sir Benjamin Lee Guinness, Bt (Conservative) 4,739 (35.19%)
  2. Jonathan Pim (Liberal) 4,653 (34.56%)
  3. John Vance 4,073 (30.25%)

On Vance's defeat the Cork Examiner stated that Pim typified Dublin's reformation from unlightened and unadorned Orangeism.The Times, Ireland 28 July 1865; pg8 col F

"Rome Rule"

Vance coined the phrase "Home Rule is Rome Rule
Rome Rule
"Rome Rule" was a term used by Irish unionists and socialists to describe the belief that the Roman Catholic Church would gain political control over their interests with the passage of a Home Rule Bill...

", meaning that the efforts to secure Irish Home Rule would result in a state dominated by the Roman Catholic Church
Roman Catholic Church
The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church, is the world's largest Christian church, with over a billion members. Led by the Pope, it defines its mission as spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ, administering the sacraments and exercising charity...

. In a debate on an Irish Bill on 12 July 1871 he said: "He was speaking to the question raised by the hon. Member for Westmeath, and his own opinion was that "home rule" in Ireland would prove to be "Rome rule"."Hansard report, 12 July 1871 The slogan became widely popular with those opposed to the first Irish Home Rule Bill 1886 a decade after Vance's death.
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