Cinder (band)
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Cinder is an alternative rock
/alternative metal
band, formed in 1999 when singer Roger Young and lead guitarist Kenny Craig began playing bars and clubs around the Southern Florida coastline and writing songs for album Soapy Tuna. It was at this time they picked up bassist Pat McGuire and drummer Brian Colbert and changed their name to Jesus Gun. In this form they recorded another album, which was available only at shows. In 2001 they signed a record deal with Geffen Records
and the album Break Your Silence was recorded, with Scott Weiland
(of Stone Temple Pilots
and Velvet Revolver
) producing nine of the album’s eleven tracks. In addition, Jay Baumgartner (Papa Roach
, Alien Ant Farm
, and Drowning Pool
) and John Kurzweg
(Creed
, Puddle of Mudd
) lent a hand in the production process as well. After the album was finished, the band name was changed again, this time to Cinder, under pressure from the record company, for legal reasons. Cinder began touring with such heavyweights as Creed
, Sevendust
and 30 Seconds to Mars
, gaining a loyal following across America. Unfortunately, before the release date Geffen Records was bought out and unsigned bands including Cinder were released, and the album never was released. The single from that album Soul Creation
was released and received much airtime on both the radio and on MTV
, essentially promoting an album that was doomed to never exist (though a promo copy of the album did indeed leak onto the internet in 2002). Soul Creation
managed to get onto the Mainstream Rock charts. Soul Creation
was also featured in PS2 videogames MX Unleashed and NHL 2004. This single helped keep the band's dreams alive as they struggled with their record company's contract. It took two more years for Cinder to be released from their contract with Geffen Records expired, and two more years after that before they were picked up by Rock Ridge Records.
In this time of limbo bassist Pat McGuire decided to leave the band, he was soon replaced with their current bassist, Steve Reich. With the new lineup and the new record company Cinder was ready to get back to recording. Their second album, titled House Full Of No Trust
, was released on August 8, 2006, and a tour was to follow that but it was cut short due to lack of funds and Rock Ridge Records dropping the band. The album had a much softer sound than their unreleased first album. A third album entitled 'You' which saw the band returning to their original, heavier style was released in 2010. The album contains a total of 7 songs: 4 new songs and 2 new recordings of songs from their unreleased Geffen album. The lead single 'Gangsta Stereo' was released in 2010 and failed to chart.
Alternative rock
Alternative rock is a genre of rock music and a term used to describe a diverse musical movement that emerged from the independent music underground of the 1980s and became widely popular by the 1990s...
/alternative metal
Alternative metal
Alternative metal is a genre of alternative rock and heavy metal that gained popularity in the early 1990s. Most notably, alternative metal bands are characterized by heavy guitar riffs and experimental approaches to heavy music.-Origins:...
band, formed in 1999 when singer Roger Young and lead guitarist Kenny Craig began playing bars and clubs around the Southern Florida coastline and writing songs for album Soapy Tuna. It was at this time they picked up bassist Pat McGuire and drummer Brian Colbert and changed their name to Jesus Gun. In this form they recorded another album, which was available only at shows. In 2001 they signed a record deal with Geffen Records
Geffen Records
Geffen Records is an American record label, owned by Universal Music Group, and operated as one third of UMG's Interscope-Geffen-A&M label group.-Beginnings:...
and the album Break Your Silence was recorded, with Scott Weiland
Scott Weiland
Scott Weiland is an American musician, lyricist, and vocalist, most notable for his work with Grammy Award-winning rock band Stone Temple Pilots. Weiland is also known for his five-year career with supergroup Velvet Revolver as well as his own solo career...
(of Stone Temple Pilots
Stone Temple Pilots
Stone Temple Pilots is an American rock band from San Diego, California that consists of Scott Weiland , brothers Robert DeLeo and Dean DeLeo , and Eric Kretz ....
and Velvet Revolver
Velvet Revolver
Velvet Revolver is an American hard rock supergroup consisting of former Guns N' Roses members Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt Sorum, alongside Dave Kushner formerly of punk band Wasted Youth. Stone Temple Pilots vocalist Scott Weiland was Velvet Revolver's lead singer from their formation until...
) producing nine of the album’s eleven tracks. In addition, Jay Baumgartner (Papa Roach
Papa Roach
Papa Roach is an American rock band from Vacaville, California. Their first major-label release was the triple-platinum album Infest . The group's success continued with their gold album Lovehatetragedy , their platinum album Getting Away with Murder , The Paramour Sessions , and Metamorphosis...
, Alien Ant Farm
Alien Ant Farm
Alien Ant Farm is an American alternative rock band that formed in Riverside, California, in 1995. Their name comes from an idea original guitarist Terry Corso had about aliens and the earth: "I was daydreaming at my dull desk job with my feet up, and I thought to myself, 'Wouldn't it be cool if...
, and Drowning Pool
Drowning Pool
Drowning Pool is a four-piece alternative metal band from Dallas, Texas.-Early days :Drowning Pool rose to fame while playing along with Ozzy Osbourne during an Ozzfest tour. Their 2001 debut album, Sinner was certified platinum within six weeks...
) and John Kurzweg
John Kurzweg
John Kurzweg is an American record producer and musician who first became known for his work with successful post-grunge band Creed in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Three of Creed's records, which Kurzweg produced, were certified multi-platinum and helped Creed achieve worldwide popularity...
(Creed
Creed (band)
Creed is an American rock band formed in 1995 in Tallahassee, Florida. Becoming popular in the late 1990s and early 2000s, the band has released three consecutive multi-platinum albums, one of which has been certified diamond, and has sold over 28 million records in the United States, with an...
, Puddle of Mudd
Puddle of Mudd
Puddle Of Mudd is an American rock band from Kansas City, Missouri, USA. To date the band has sold over 7 million albums, and have had a string of #1 mainstream rock singles in the United States. Their major-label debut Come Clean has sold over 5 million copies...
) lent a hand in the production process as well. After the album was finished, the band name was changed again, this time to Cinder, under pressure from the record company, for legal reasons. Cinder began touring with such heavyweights as Creed
Creed (band)
Creed is an American rock band formed in 1995 in Tallahassee, Florida. Becoming popular in the late 1990s and early 2000s, the band has released three consecutive multi-platinum albums, one of which has been certified diamond, and has sold over 28 million records in the United States, with an...
, Sevendust
Sevendust
Sevendust is an American heavy metal band from Atlanta, Georgia. Formed in 1994 by bassist Vince Hornsby, drummer Morgan Rose and guitarist John Connolly. After their first demo, lead vocalist Lajon Witherspoon and guitarist Clint Lowery joined the group...
and 30 Seconds to Mars
30 Seconds to Mars
30 Seconds to Mars is an American rock band from Los Angeles, formed in 1998. Since 2007, the band has consisted of actor Jared Leto , Shannon Leto and Tomo Miličević...
, gaining a loyal following across America. Unfortunately, before the release date Geffen Records was bought out and unsigned bands including Cinder were released, and the album never was released. The single from that album Soul Creation
Soul Creation
"Soul Creation" is a single by the alternative rock band Cinder. The 2003 single came from the band's debut album Break Your Silence, which was never released due to the record label being bought out and Cinder being released from their contract. The single charted at 26th on the Mainstream Rock...
was released and received much airtime on both the radio and on MTV
MTV
MTV, formerly an initialism of Music Television, is an American network based in New York City that launched on August 1, 1981. The original purpose of the channel was to play music videos guided by on-air hosts known as VJs....
, essentially promoting an album that was doomed to never exist (though a promo copy of the album did indeed leak onto the internet in 2002). Soul Creation
Soul Creation
"Soul Creation" is a single by the alternative rock band Cinder. The 2003 single came from the band's debut album Break Your Silence, which was never released due to the record label being bought out and Cinder being released from their contract. The single charted at 26th on the Mainstream Rock...
managed to get onto the Mainstream Rock charts. Soul Creation
Soul Creation
"Soul Creation" is a single by the alternative rock band Cinder. The 2003 single came from the band's debut album Break Your Silence, which was never released due to the record label being bought out and Cinder being released from their contract. The single charted at 26th on the Mainstream Rock...
was also featured in PS2 videogames MX Unleashed and NHL 2004. This single helped keep the band's dreams alive as they struggled with their record company's contract. It took two more years for Cinder to be released from their contract with Geffen Records expired, and two more years after that before they were picked up by Rock Ridge Records.
In this time of limbo bassist Pat McGuire decided to leave the band, he was soon replaced with their current bassist, Steve Reich. With the new lineup and the new record company Cinder was ready to get back to recording. Their second album, titled House Full Of No Trust
House Full of No Trust
House Full of No Trust is the second album by the rock band Cinder. It was released on August 22, 2006. For this album, the band dropped the angry vocals and heavy guitars of their debut album in favor of a much softer sound.-Track listing:...
, was released on August 8, 2006, and a tour was to follow that but it was cut short due to lack of funds and Rock Ridge Records dropping the band. The album had a much softer sound than their unreleased first album. A third album entitled 'You' which saw the band returning to their original, heavier style was released in 2010. The album contains a total of 7 songs: 4 new songs and 2 new recordings of songs from their unreleased Geffen album. The lead single 'Gangsta Stereo' was released in 2010 and failed to chart.
Album
| Year | Album | Chart | Position |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2003 | Break Your Silence | Billboard 200 | Un-Released |
| 2006 | House Full Of No Trust House Full of No Trust House Full of No Trust is the second album by the rock band Cinder. It was released on August 22, 2006. For this album, the band dropped the angry vocals and heavy guitars of their debut album in favor of a much softer sound.-Track listing:... |
Billboard 200 | - |
| 2010 | You | Billboard 200 | - |
Singles
| Year | Single | Chart | Position |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2003 | Soul Creation Soul Creation "Soul Creation" is a single by the alternative rock band Cinder. The 2003 single came from the band's debut album Break Your Silence, which was never released due to the record label being bought out and Cinder being released from their contract. The single charted at 26th on the Mainstream Rock... |
Mainstream Rock | 26 |
| 2003 | Lush Lush -People:* Archibald Lush, a Welsh school inspector* Billy Lush, an American actor* David Lush, Canadian politician* Ernie Lush, American Baseball player* Jay Laurence Lush, an American geneticist* Jane Lush, a British worker... |
Mainstream Rock | |
| 2006 | Electrified | Mainstream Rock | - |
| 2010 | Gangsta Stereo | Mainstream Rock | - |