"TBone, I must reply to your outburst!"
Outburst...LOL!

">No - time is a one-way phenomenon NOT linked with space."
I take it that you didn't know it's called spacetime... It doesn't surprise me that you didn't know that.

"The USSR, China and USA military did some serious research on that 'fantasy' - only problem it wasn't quite reliable enough."
Countries do research on all sorts of things ranging from the absurd to the highly intelligent. They "abandoned" it because it was discovered to be a useless hoax.

"Somehow I don't think it's quite as bad as that."
What you think is irrelevant, only facts matter.

"Once you understand gravity and how matter really behaves - on a subtronic level."
Clearly you have no idea when you spout nonsense words like subtronic.

"And while we're on 'c' you might have heard from ESA that our assumed 'CONSTANTS' are now in question. Variable 'alpha' is the first."
This is under review and it's a variation in one part in I dunno how many million. Highly speculative for the time being.

"When was the last test done outside of the heliosphere?"
I don't think we've been able to get something outside of the heliosphere. We do however, observe many phenomena that occurs outside of the heliosphere.

"You are making an assumption that things are the same everywhere."
We have no GOOD reason to believe otherwise.

"The plasma envelope you call the solar system is but a tiny semi-spherical discharge bubble in the vast electrical circuit of our local galaxy. Our primitive manmade craft are only now reaching that zone."
So?

"How insulting of you. Obviously you are jealous of those who saw something you missed. Hysteria doesn't come into it I simply left off my homework and bodged a coathanger into a tripod so that we could all have a look at this shining dot in the sky."
Oh so jealous! That you saw an object in the sky that YOU could not identify is no big deal. It happens all the time. Now for you to jump to conclusions about ET without ANY CREDIBLE evidence, is a joke.

"Watch it super hero! That's hardly a scientific argument - more like religious fervour from someone who DOES NOT WANT TO BE CHALLENGED WITH THE TRUTH!"
ET has NOT been scientifically confirmed, which makes YOU the zealot!

"I don't know why I am wasting my breath on someone who believes this utter tripe! Black Holes - sounds like the hysteria has got to you. Who in their right mind..."
Tell me about it! There are so many utterly misinformed people like you out there...I sure have my work cut out!

I said: Matter & Antimatter both have positive and negative components...
"Says who?"
Particle physicists, for starters; however, it does not surprise me that you were unaware of this fact. I'll give you a crash course:

Matter = Protons (positive), electrons (negative), neutrons (neutral.)

Antimatter: Anti-protons (negative), anti-electrons (positive), anti-neutrons (neutral.)

So, now you can't say I never taught you anything!

Before you call me anymore names, i would like to prove you wrong first. you can recite all the things that you read in your books, which in the first place, are just hypothisis (educated guesses), scientists can't say yes or no to wormholes, because there is no mathamatical proof,you say that i am insulting, sorry you are the one insulting people,(your own statements) and before i let some book jumper, who probibly never even went to school. Before i graduated MIT in 92' i performed under grad. work @ fermi-labs, at the particle accel, and anti-matter is a known phys. fact.
Another fact is hubble telescope, which proves that "black holes" or what we know as black holes, do indeed exist. There are extreme forces at work when you deal with gravity,
so much in fact it warps time space, bends light, fuse's hydrogen/nickel atoms, and the likes. you, quote other peoples facts, and not your own. are you ready?

Heres my truth: 2
3.14 J 3.14 (mc )
Q + ( - ) < M
M -

Also, before you start quoteing Mr. Hawkings (whom iv'e personally met several times, if you truely knew him, you would figure out for your self that, anything is possable,
before we can use our knowledge of science, we have to understand it. People used to think that the world was flat,
do you think the world is flat?

they say to beleive half of what you hear, and all of what you see, well my friend, there really was a scientist that
worked at area 51, there are really alien space ships, and other life in the universe, and yes gravity is alot more than a wave form. (7 parts to be exact) so look at my math, and get back to me in six months/year (it will probibly take you that long to look them up, if you can understand them.) Hint: Schwarzschild.

p.s.: they have STORED ANTI MATTER, and released it also.
little minds=little answers.Mr einstein with his own 2 lips
explained about "perspective". gravity directly effects time, proven fact.

That is one of the smartest statements i have heard yet....
BRAVO!

To travel in time, is a very complex question, but it is possible. I don't think that any living organism can travel at the speed of light, because it would rip them apart, but if you wanted to travel long distances in space, you just harness gravity, and warp space/time. gravity, time , and space are indirectly related, but you CAN cover vast distances by warping space, and shortening the Time it takes! Also, space CAN be warped. Thats how scientists can see stars that are behind are own sun, because our sun warps the space AND The time around it.(fact) I think that there are dimensions, like in string theory, but i do know that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction (galaxy expanding). all time is, is a unit of measure that man has made up, to measure the passing of time, and to calculate speeds, and make/take measurements.

To tbooner, (is it t-boone or t-boner)
you havent taught me anything, you just quoted what you have
heard. also your facts on anti-matter are very vague, do your homework.

Here's one for everybody: Lets say, just for shits and giggles, that time travel is possible. That would require you to be on earth, in its rotation around the sun, in the exact location in the Universe. it is a fact that our universe is getting larger, and expanding.(E. Hubble)
Do you go back to the original position, or the original time? Paradox? if you are no longer in a specific time, how can you have a paradox? if you remained in the same time, time would not move, would it? "perception".

Please stop trying to make yourself sound smarter than you are. The concept of warping space is as of this point only a theory. The reason that we see an object behind another one is that because the light is refracting. The light is bending and warping around the object, not space. Also I don't see how Newton's law of motion, "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction", has anything at all to do with time travel??? Perhaps it is you that needs to do a little more homework.

Refracting off/ or through what? theres no material in space for refraction?!?! the speed of the light traveling from the star in question to the earth is slowed down by the gravitational pull of the sun. the sun doesn't have a shiny surface. Does it? and Newton has to do with gravity, not time. when did i say that newtons law of grav. controls time? time, space , and gravity are all relative to each other, period. and you said light is bending and warping around the object. How? Gravity is how....

Also, The U.S. Government, Naval Research Division to be accurate, have been warping space/time since the late 60's and early 70's. by means of a 100% eff. fission reactor, that they use to run gravity gen's. Hell, Scientists right as we speak are trying to create an artificial micro sun, so they can tap the energy that it can generate. Do you want the address? go see for yourself.

Lawrence Livermore Labs in Livermore, CA

Refracting off/ or through what? theres no material in space for refraction?!?

>Well actually I think there is plenty of evidence that space is full of neutrinos:
1) They are the lowest energy state of matter, exhibiting vanishingly small mass.
2) Composed of subtrons, they form electric dipoles in an electric field (of which there are plenty in space).
3) Each dipole rotates thru 360deg per cycle.
4) This ties the speed of light in a 'vacuum' to the moment of inertia of a neutrino.
5) Neutrinos reintroduce the cause and effect to radioactive decay.

So maybe the ether exists and we can remove time from Einstein's equations?

Sorry tbone :-
"The Michelson-Morley experiment debunked the idea of an 'ether' and left a void, which Einstein 'filled' with 'time' as a kind of medium in which things happen."
..And it isn't time, it's spacetime.
>Bllocks

The Electric Universe theory (Wallace Thornhill_2010) proposes that all subatomic particles are resonant systems of charged subunits of matter (subtrons) which cannot be created or destroyed
The electron and neutrino have structure!

The electric force must operate at near infinite speed to maintain coherence of resonant systems like electrons, atoms, planetary systems and galaxies

Just like magnets that are free to rotate, all the dipoles (distorted subtron orbits) in protons, neutrons & electrons line up so they attract each other - GRAVITY

[Mass is a measure of the ease of electrically deforming a particle. ‘Antimatter’ is a misnomer]

Light is an ‘electric ripple’ moving through a medium - in space = neutrinos. The speed of light depends on the inertia of that medium to the oscillating electric field.

Yes why not. Just recall past by your mind< You'll travel through time. Because mind can conquor the 4 dimentions.

I don't believe so, dimensional travel is

Some modern scientists have made many advances in this theory. Although it may seem now that we won't make progress, I believe we will make greater reaches in time traveling through the years to come

Hi.
I have recently read a book on the lost civilizations,Antlantida and among them were Lemury (Lemuri) they were able to transport them to differnet places but not certain if they were able to go backwards in time or forward in future?!!!

"Before you call me anymore names, i would like to prove you wrong first."
I was not aware that I called you any names. As far as proving me wrong...you can certainly try.

"you can recite all the things that you read in your books, which in the first place, are just hypothisis (educated guesses), scientists can't say yes or no to wormholes, because there is no mathamatical proof"
Not all things in physics are 'educated guesses' and there is definite mathematical 'proof' for wormholes, BUT there is ZERO empirical evidence for wormholes. Wormholes are 'extremes' of the equations. Remember: just because something exists or is expressible mathematically, does NOT mean it exists in reality (i.e. physically.)

"you say that i am insulting,"
No I didn't. You seem to be conversing all by yourself.

"sorry you are the one insulting people,(your own statements) and before i let some book jumper, who probibly never even went to school. Before i graduated MIT in 92' i performed under grad."
Well, I highly doubt that...but if you did, it certainly wasn't a degree in physics or English!

"work @ fermi-labs, at the particle accel, and anti-matter is a known phys. fact."
There is ZERO empirical evidence for wormholes. Please stop lying.

"Another fact is hubble telescope, which proves that "black holes" or what we know as black holes, do indeed exist."
Who said anything about blackholes not existing? You are quite delirious.

"There are extreme forces at work when you deal with gravity, so much in fact it warps time space, bends light, fuse's hydrogen/nickel atoms, and the likes."
All wonderful things that I never spoke about.

"you, quote other peoples facts, and not your own."
Does that fragment even make sense? Why would I quote myself?

"are you ready?"
I won't hold my breath...

"Heres my truth: 2 3.14 J 3.14 (mc ) Q + ( - ) < M
M - "

Wonderful gibberish!

"Also, before you start quoteing Mr. Hawkings"
When did I quote Mr. Hawking? Answer: I did not.

"...(whom iv'e personally met several times, if you truely knew him, you would figure out for your self that, anything is possable, before we can use our knowledge of science, we have to understand it. People used to think that the world was flat, do you think the world is flat?"
Everything is possible, except the impossible. Contradictions are not possible. The world being flat is not an inherent contradiction, ergo, one could be mistaken about that. A number that's > 5 and less than 2 is impossible. A square circle is impossible. Contradictions are impossible.

"...they say to beleive half of what you hear, and all of what you see, well my friend, there really was a scientist that worked at area 51, there are really alien space ships, and other life in the universe, and yes gravity is alot more than a wave form. (7 parts to be exact)"
Take the aluminum foil off your head.

"so look at my math, and get back to me in six months/year (it will probibly take you that long to look them up, if you can understand them.) Hint: Schwarzschild."
Gibberish.

"p.s.: they have STORED ANTI MATTER, and released it also."
So?

"little minds=little answers.Mr einstein with his own 2 lips
explained about "perspective". gravity directly effects time, proven fact."
Yes, and who's denying that? Answer: not I.

These are all wonderful retorts to I have no idea what because it doesn't even pertain to things I've said!

"To tbooner, (is it t-boone or t-boner)
you havent taught me anything, you just quoted what you have
heard. also your facts on anti-matter are very vague, do your homework."
Lol! Was it over your head? Stuff you couldn't understand? It doesn't surprise me that you didn't learn anything, people like you usually don't.

"Lets say, just for shits and giggles, that time travel is possible. That would require you to be on earth, in its rotation around the sun, in the exact location in the Universe."
WTF are you talking about? You've been watching too much Dr. Who!

"it is a fact that our universe is getting larger, and expanding.(E. Hubble) Do you go back to the original position, or the original time? Paradox?"
If it's time travel, you OBVIOUSLY would need to go back to that point in SPACETIME, not just that point in space. Otherwise it would just be space travel NOT time travel.

"if you are no longer in a specific time, how can you have a paradox? if you remained in the same time, time would not move, would it? "perception"."
Wow you are confused!

"Also, The U.S. Government, Naval Research Division to be accurate, have been warping space/time since the late 60's and early 70's. by means of a 100% eff. fission reactor, that they use to run gravity gen's. Hell, Scientists right as we speak are trying to create an artificial micro sun, so they can tap the energy that it can generate. Do you want the address? go see for yourself."
Now you've really gone off your meds!
***************************************

"Sorry tbone :- "
Nothing to be sorry about Cigarshape!

"The Electric Universe theory (Wallace Thornhill_2010) proposes that all subatomic particles are resonant systems of charged subunits of matter (subtrons) which cannot be created or destroyed"
All wonderful speculation and not one iota of empirical proof!

"The electron and neutrino have structure!"
They always did!

All this is fine, but it still doesn't undo the fact that c is the ultimate speed!

"The electron and neutrino have structure!"
They always did!
Must say I was never taught that! However Wal's thoughts on subtron structure introduces particles that MUST be travelling faster than c. Their orbits within the electron bounds are constantly distorting to maintain the equilibrium of the atom.

Gravity also has to react faster than c in order to maintain planetary equilibrium?

Empirical proof has to come from the right experiments. So far Wal's gauntlet has not been taken up - the challengers seem to be relying on mathematics to make their case.

It hasnt been proven to be true but i think that if we really wanted to time travel it culd b possible. i dont belive tht will evr happen but im saying tht some genius is ganna come along and claim to figure it out.

"...Wal's thoughts on subtron structure introduces particles that MUST be travelling faster than c. Their orbits within the electron bounds are constantly distorting to maintain the equilibrium of the atom."
Wonderful speculation without a shred of empirical evidence!

"Gravity also has to react faster than c in order to maintain planetary equilibrium?"
Is that a question? The answer is no, of course.

"Empirical proof has to come from the right experiments."
Obviously.

"So far Wal's gauntlet has not been taken up - the challengers seem to be relying on mathematics to make their case."
Why not? If it doesn't pass mathematical muster...then what's the point!

What is to say that we haven't been visited by time travelers? I am sure you have seen the many shows and movies that talk about how the time space continuom would be disrupted if someone were to see themself from the future. Maybe in the future we will be traveling back in time to get a better look at history with a universal rule of secrecy.

I've also seen many shows on tv about magical unicorns; however, that doesn't make it so. You asked "what is to say that we haven't been visited by time travelers?" well, for starters, the fact that time travel to the past is a paradox kinda puts a damper on things.

Soooo true

My own personal observation is, It could be possible, and not from a man made relgious point of view but knowing God.
When you think about the bible (The book of Life) someone knew the beging and the end of time as WE know it.
So thru meditation and what we call remote viewing time trvel is possible as a an observer, however I dont think you can change what is already created, Or perhaps you can make changes by making choices at a particular point that would effect your life. You can do this with GOD.
As we all create our world with God as a co piolet acomplish anything.

Wether you believe in flying saucers Im sure these guys would know about time travel, through meditation you may be able to hitch a ride.

My own personal observation is, It could be possible, and not from a man made relgious point of view but knowing God.
When you think about the bible (The book of Life) someone knew the beging and the end of time as WE know it.
So thru meditation and what we call remote viewing time trvel is possible as a an observer, however I dont think you can change what is already created, Or perhaps you can make changes by making choices at a particular point that would effect your life. You can do this with GOD.
As we all create our world with God as a co piolet acomplish anything.

Wether you believe in flying saucers Im sure these guys would know about time travel, through meditation you may be able to hitch a ride.

God has nothing to do with time travel.

God must be defined to make this statement. However off the coast of South America on the ocean floor there is a steel aerial sticking out of the sea bed. It is made of railway line and was discovered and photographed by the survey ship Eltanin in 1964 well before photos could be doctored. There is a copy of the photo inside a book that cannot be a forgery either as it came out in the sixties as well and is in most libraries across the world called harmonic 33 by a Bruce Cathy. And I assure you those who placed these aerials of several across the globe were hostile by intention on a scale that has made us all dumb as oxen. They managed to introduce a second signal into our one signal space time system. We are always arguing over trivia and getting nowhere fast constructively. So gentlemen and ladies I put it too you to fight back as I have by managing to consistently produce a deep physics experiment that is a new physical model as it is called in the industry. But I know you just want believe me but all I know is my God is better than there God of gravity and magnetic attraction between charges. I have proof in the form of a photo of an ice mountain formed from freezing ordinary tap water in an ordinary freezer at home. This photo in all its glory can be seen at www.thelittleblackandwhitebook.wordpress.com/. And it is my belief that you who wish to will be able to go ahead under consciousness quantum entanglement and God and make your very own inside a freezer somewhere inside the LHC complex or at home.

There is no such thing as "time travel".Certain high developed individuals can live "in the moment",in eternal NOW.

Einstein never said time travel was possible. Read his "original" theory, not one that "mis-quotes" what he says. FYI, Einstein said, "IF, two spaceships were traveling at the speed of light, one were traveling away from you and one traveling toward you, and you could zoom-in on these spaceships, one would appear to be traveling forward in time, while the other would be appear to be traveling backward in time..." (of course this is paraphrased, but I hope you get the idea). Einstein never said either spaceship was traveling forward or backward in time, he only said that it "appear" to be, dependent on your "relative" position to the spaceship(s).

So for all you "so-called" scholars and professors that want to insist that Einstein said "time travel" was possible, HE DID NOT! Please, get this right!!!!

What about MAYAN's SHEET and calander ?
any one read something about it , it says it is possible to travel in time .

IF YOU ARE AN INVENTOR YOU CAN BUILD A TIME MACHINE AND GO BACK IN TIME

I think that time travel will be posbal

Not when God is in control of everything...and especially not in a body that is cursed, due to the "fall of man" found in Genesis 3. Since God is all about "life" and living eternally, when you get a new body which will be a body that can withstand eternity will be able to do anything. What would be the purpose of 'time travel'? Perhaps to change the course of history, or events that has happened. But of course one would know that God is in control of history, so that God's will will be complete.

Not when God is in control of everything...and especially not in a body that is cursed, due to the "fall of man" found in Genesis 3. Since God is all about "life" and living eternally, when you get a new body which will be a body that can withstand eternity will be able to do anything. What would be the purpose of 'time travel'? Perhaps to change the course of history, or events that has happened. But of course one would know that God is in control of history, so that God's will will be complete.

Time travel is not possible because to create a hole in time time itself needs to turn back and when that happens it will be like a computer with virus. time will be stuck. it will be like nothing exist. another point is that there isn't a single function in math that can cause the function to go back on the x-axis. eg. if a line (function) goes from 1 to 10 it is impossible to return it back from ten to one in a single function. the single function can be time or someone.

I don't know if backward time travel is possible
for me or not. I think my body still exists "above"
because I still get poisoned with a lot of stuff like
the "agent orange" plant killer that I accidentally
drank when I was a young boy, and LSD,PCP,Marijuana,
bug spray,roundup grass killer, and other stuff I can't think of. They run numbers on my body and I think it
programs my body above to keep taking those things. If they
just moved my consciense mind there I probably wouldn't
take that stuff again. It's just a bunch of locations with
people that all look almost the same as me if I'm right.
Time doesn't mean much if it's mostly locations where my other bodys still exist.

I think it to be very possible

It's a question I ponder daily. My curiousity now rests with perception/observation of time through enhanced means. What I mean by that is, say you wore an apparatus made up of stereoscopic ultra-high speed cameras that are able to slow life down to 6 million frames per second. I think that would be interesting.

Time travel is NOT possible! Ask yourself, "What is the one thing, GOD, cannot do?"

ANSWER: CHANGE THE HANDS OF TIME!

For surely, God, who loves man, would turn back the hands of time, to give man the opportunity to do things right!

As opposed to, destroying the entire worldk and starting all over again!

Just my thoughts! What do you think?

Oh i wish i could is it fun or scary? yes it is possible have you guess ever watched jumper i wish i could be a jump to! by the way my friend said that her dad nows everthing and he says it is possible.

No and why would you want too? to change something in the past? would that not change the future? and would it not break time in to demensions? It is not ment to be and should not be as what you change may only make things worse even with the best of intensions

Oh my god thats along way away and everyone says that the worlds going to end in 2012 i argue a lot about its not going to end

Kill joy!

No.

Time is a man-made abstract. You could just as easily
step into someone's painting as travel in time. It cannot be done. Why do people continue to try to wedge this topic into a discussion?

Laughable. (Waiting for a 2-paragraph response!) (O:

How is time a 'physical' thing?
(It is the utmost of abstract ideas.)

Please answer in one or 2 paragraphs.
Thanks. (O:

U mean visited past or future?? or space???

How do you know there have not been visitors of time travel? i mean noone knows but the govornment could be kepping things from us.. Time travels discovery could be very dangerous when someone knows how to use it if its possible....

It really isn't because the only way now is to split apart our atoms and reassembling them in just enough time to survive the impact on the landing on the Earth so we don't ending up like a bunch of particles on the ground.

Time travel is impossible but possible.What iam saying is that it is possible but it involves dieing.To travel trough time, we have to split apart our atoms and reassemble them just in time before the impact on the ground. If humans can just find out a way to use 100% of their brain and not be so worried about everything, then we will be able to split apart atoms and stuff like that.Therfor if we use our whole brain we will go back in time at least 100 years.