That is quite an intriguing theory... It is ethical, but I am not sure I agree, for what if they say not?

REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS? You actually think you can fool people like that? Now I am not a dream crusher, or a "party pooper," so I believe that is possible. If so who is president? Is America in a drout? What wars are going on? What are popular songs?

How has technology advanced other than time travel. How are computers more modern?

I only want to discuss backward timetravel, since it's already been proven forward time travel is more or less possible.

I hardly pass as a mathematician or scientist, but I believe backward time travel can be proved to be impossible. Look at the physical aspect of what time travel is doing:

Solid matter (created by energy) moving backward through time to a time it already existed. Our bodies use energy from food which got its energy from the sun. If we went back in time, that energy will be in a different place than our body. Either in the food that still has yet to be eaten, or even possibly still in the sun. Since there is a law that states matter cannot be duplicated, it's clearly impossible.

But YOU know the state of the photon which is light years of the photon.

If you can change the state of your photon, the state of the other photon must change. So, you are transmitting something to him faster than c.

You are out of your depth. I end my discussion here.

I meant YOUR DEFINITION of time doesn't prove anything.

Many scientists have shown that it is so. Many don't even entertain the idea at all.

You are not transmitting any information faster than c. You know, Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source out there. You should always look for alternatives but, if you are going to use it at least read the WHOLE article and not just the parts that you feel will back your points. If you did, you would know that QE does NOT allow for FTL communication.

FTL Signals: you really need to verify your sources and understand what you are reading. FTL signaling is not possible and has never been done. Let me explain. The speed of light in a vacuum is c and is 300,000 kps; this is also the maximum speed anything can travel (matter, energy, information.) However, light tends to travel more slowly when propagating through different mediums which means that it is less than c. Whenever you hear about FTL signaling, it is signaling that occurs inside such mediums where they are able to send signals at a slightly faster rate than light IN THAT MEDIUM but they NEVER exceed c. This of course will not violate causality or cause any time travel to the past to occur.

"The time slows as we approach c, stops at c, and goes backwards at c. There is no reason,other than mathematical one of the requirement for zero mass, for faster than c speed to be impossible." There are MANY reasons why c is the maximum speed in our Universe, not just a mathematical requirement. As you know, anything with mass (even in the smallest amount) will require an infinite amount of energy to get to c, never mind surpassing it. There is not an infinite amount of energy available in the Universe.

"Using your approach to 'argument':What does the universe do to prevent you from exceeding speed c?" It requires you to use an infinite amount of energy to do so. Next question.

"Before 'your friend's' theory, would you have said that traveling faster than the speed of light is impossible?" Probably not. The common sense thing is to ask oneself "why would there be an ultimate speed?"

"But even his theory only says that objects of non-zero and real mass cannot travel faster than the speed of light. "Did you know that c can be thought of as the speed of time?" Exactly, so you 'merely' need to transmit signals faster than c to send it to the past..." Actually, the theory also suggests that information also cannot exceed c, as I have shown you above. No one has sent a signal back through time.

"It is the main postulate of general relativity. No frame is preferred." So? What does that have to do with what we are talking about?

"Since, no frame is given preference you did travel back in time." No. That's got nothing to do with what we are talking about.

"Your telescope argument is wrong. You don't apply relativity like that. Study the basics at least." Lol! I should charge you for these lessons!

"From the reference frame of the earth, the star IS as old as it appears." Yes. But we weren't talking about the frame of reference of the earth, were we? We were talking about from the frame of reference of the star.

"No reference frame is preferred for measuring the stars' age(including its own)." Other than you, no one's picking a preferred reference frame. Do you even know what you are talking about? There are 2 frames of reference the earth's & star's; what SR tells us is that these 2 may not agree upon the simultaneity of an event.

Sure it does. It proves that time travel to the past is impossible! In other words, it makes time travel to the past = a contradiction. Quite simple, really.

I like my definition because of its simplicity, profound implications, and rigorous empirical support. Of course, you are more than welcome to refuse this definition, but it is a very good one! If you use a different definition, then it may have different consequences like time travel to the past being possible, etc.

Wow do you think the world is full of dumbies nobody is going to blieve that

Hmmm. Apparently, by using Owenbomar as an example with his arrogance, not all of us can appreciate a friendly joke. :)

Calm down or you'll shoot in your pants haha If you just read the post that I left above the joke post, you'll see my real view on time travel. :)

What law states that "matter cannot be duplicated?" There is no such law. There is one that says that matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed.

Time is a word ment to describe the moment, there is no past, no future. Einstieinian /lorentz math equasion states that if you travel faster than light 300,000 miles per second, then you could leave the earth and return, before you left, or before the suns energy would arrive on earth if you had never left, which if the assumptions were correct, then the equasion would be accurate, however the problem arises when you add an independent observor with a stop watch, for instance a vessel traveling at 1,200,000 miles per second left the earth and went for 60 seconds into outer space, then immediately returned, arriving back on earth 60 seconds before the suns energy would arive on earth had the vessel not left, thus space-time continium theory and relativity are satisified, however the man with the stop watch states 120 seconds passed, and that in fact time and the speed of light are not equatable as stated, probably why Lorentz tossed the idea. Einstein picked it up, added a bit more gibberish and has fooled the academic ventures for more than 100 years, stifiling and confusing actual students trying to understand reality. Einstein, discovered nothing, is a plaguarist, and exposes the convoluted order of things

In physics time is much more than a word meant to "describe the moment." The Einstein/Lorentz equations "state" no such thing. If we allow for "unlimited speed" (which relativity does not) then a solution can show "backwards time travel." The only problem is c is a constant & is the ultimate speed & this has been demonstrated to be so time and time again through experimentation. Secondly, if c is not the "ultimate speed limit" as some conspiracy theorists would have you believe, then neither time dilation or time travel to the past would occur! It is BECAUSE c is the ultimate speed limit that the other 2 are so.

Or you can believe the nonsensical gibberish above based on pseudo science and conspiracies.

Sockless boots ? does thatenable you to save time by not putting on socks? Do you go forward or backward in time on the way to the can? Eh?

Theoretical physics consists of statement that are without valid premise. If you can only refer to the gibberish of theoretical physics, then you are reduced to giving credibility to these eqausions, and discuss things like "C" which is unfortunately without clear meaning because it is without supposition. I am inclined to read theories in the same realm as science fiction, Physics on the other hand, like the study of real optics, the actual electromagnetic spectrum, new instrumentation, are tools you can do something with. Theoretical physics, from a real perspective, is just speculation, like talk football, of the belief Einstein added anything to real science, or I am descended from a golem, or the world is flat, or demons cause mental illness, or fashion and law which dominates our society while denaturing the earth and seperating the classes, or trys to. "C" EH?

Absolute statements ie: the ultimate speed, in a world traveling around the sun at 70,000 mpg or so, the sun 200 meters or so per second arounf the galaxy center, the galaxy 600 meters per second, relative to the other galaxies, all derived from inexact math equasions, bordering on theory, and you discuss absolute statements, with is the source of invalidity, next you will be trying to convince me the moon orbits the earth, as opposed to the sun, operating in a two planet system, where the moon is the 5th largest planet in the solar system, and creates an illusion of orbit by going faster than the earth (pulled by the sun) then lags behind the earth and rotates 360 degrees during its cycle, and the entire cycle takes over 9 years to complete ( Hubble ) Not a theory, an independent time study, real scientific work measurement. What are you stuck in a meaningless job following your academic ventures selling einsteinian gibberish to students who only seek truth ? Hey if I were you I would think as you do, and vise versa we are the same, only dofferent perspectives. I read the history timeline of math/physics and don't see the logical justification for either a prolongated study in the field, or awarding false credibility with real academic venture degrees. But thats me. I am not a theorist, anyone can makeup a story about a field of theoretical science, since it doesn't require valid premise. And people earn money doing it. you can have the luck of the draw in vegas, if there were no card gangs, thats what academic theory is all about, playing a meaningless with a stacked deck of academia. In case you haven't noticed, there is now one book, a place a child can go and learn more than a hundrend, confused prof's can teach him. Academia, as it now exists, is the tail wagging the dog

First, take the aluminum foil off your head. It's OK really. The aliens can't really read your thoughts! Lol!

Anyways, fortunately for us in the real world, science doesn't work how YOU "feel" it should but instead works on the scientific method. You might remember this from school, no? Maybe not because I bet you probably thought that you were oh so much smarter than your teachers and that silly Einstein. Had you paid attention, you might have learned that the SM involves:

1)Ask a Question
2)Do Background Research
3)Construct a Hypothesis (oh no, not theories!!!)
4)Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
5)Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion (no! not more theories!)
6)Communicate Your Results

But why communicate your results? Then other people can experiment and verify your results and then find out that you're lying? Oh wait, c has been shown to be a constant time and time again. Hmmm. A screw that, it doesn't feel right...what do scientists know anyways!

Grow up.

Again, if you had bothered to LEARN from your teachers rather than FEEL that you are superior to them, you would have realized that "c being a constant" is NOT the premise. Einstein didn't wake up one day and think hmm let's make up a max speed & call it c! He was as surprised as everyone else to FIND that c was a constant. Just like you, he was also resistant to just accept because it doesn't FEEL right. But unlike you, he and others used the scientific method to test this out. And what did the experiments reveal? That Einstein was right! Even as technology progresses and we are able to perform ever more accurate experiments, we continue to see that he was right.

But that's all mumbo jumbo...I mean, come on! Who knows better than you?

"...America never thought it would be possible to fly, then the Wright brothers..." This is simply untrue. It's not that scientists didn't believe that flight was impossible, they knew it was. Man had been making rockets for ages (Chinese.) Scientists knew that there were many engineering problems that they could not overcome at the time; some may have thought that these might never be overcome. But most did not.

Just like the sound barrier. Some people think that most scientists believed that before Chuck Yeager's flight, it was impossible to break the sound barrier. This couldn't be further from the truth as scientists already knew for 100 or 200 years earlier that this wasn't so. Bullets, rockets, etc. were all known to be faster than sound. Again, it was a question of engineering.

Its interesting, your scientific method, however consider this 1) isolate and identify the variables, 2) place them into their natural sequence of occuring elements 3) time and quantify the elements and frequency of occurancies (being sure to isolate, identify and if required for objective study, then, construct differeent math platforms where outside variables disrupt the natural order of things within the confines of the part of the matrix you are constructing). Once you have completed the study, then you tally up the element values and divide or multiply the value according to the overall subject and object of study, If there are other math platforms to construct. ---Next--- observe the subject/object of study from a different perspective ( If its going to be a cubed matrix, then you have an additional 5 more sides to study, constructing the same methodology of study, any outside variables will eventually appear from the other studies as elements within that study. Once the matrix is determined, continue to study the subject/object untill you are able to predict the present, in order to determine the additional elements of activity that may affect the matrix outcome, which may be a variable if you plan on new dimensions within the confines of the matrix. Remember the most important variable, nothing is the same, or, remains the same, as time changes all things, and accomodations are made to consider this main element that may well predict the future matrix more accurately. If the study is made to determine permanent standards, of just a justificational study, or whatever---------this matrix, was originally discovered in 1972, and perhaps earlier, it was titled the multi variable visual selection chart, where it was developed using a programable computer because the number crunching task was beyond normal human capability, given the time dictates and economic justification of the original study of a single side or perspective itself. after submitting the math construct to Cornell by the honorable John West, (CEO of Manitowoc Engineering, manitowoc wisconsin) without prejudice, allowing anyone to use it, it became embedded into the scientific community, and many other matrix's have been developed, which in turn have permitted us an ascention toward truth, by discovering the new overall approach to math/science/physics/optics of a non theoretical basis, this math platform is at the root of things like; auto-cad, windows, because it is actual computer math technology data acquisition methodology. The significant single most important element of the matrix, is, it allows you to construct an algebraic math model accomodating an infinite number of variables, the ability to physically observe the element of future prediction and thus travel either into time, or observe time as it was, while considering an infinite more number of variables than the space-time continium considers, which is what separates it from real science, as opposed to actual science. Don't get me wrong, sometimes, I consider outright lies, to be transgenic truths, because of the part of their statement made without valid assumption, led to someone elses considering the missing premise, and upon adding it led us even closer to the real truth, It seems we may be interfacing, with a paranormal event we lack the instrumentation to know or identify. In this respect I consider Einstein, although quite full of it, and had outside unknowing support for more than 100 years, to have made the unqualified statements which led to elements of study, bringing us ever closer to being able to define reality, There are many many other people, like einstein who brought us through the ages, whose form of study was more validized, like madam, and pierre currie, and jacques, or liebnitz, michangelo, etc etc etc, each one adding to this, our artificial intelligence, where without it perhaps we are living a more productive enhanced quality of life. We are all the same with respect to considering we would be little different from one another if we had lived each others life. And I have never met another person whom in his/her own way underneath all their collateral damage, who was not trying to do the right things, individually. I see the essential problem keeping us down, to be the class establishment. Where in the USA we attempt; equality, ethics, logic and a consideration of spiritual or paranormal, we have unfortunately abandoned nature and are replacing it with fashion and law, which enforces the fashion, we are misled by our non-objective media/academia-prejudged and have lost our way, jerked around by a world class mafia, hiding behind the confines of preliterate scribes, we are indeed denaturing the earth, and Nobility has returned, cloaked under other names. Even through all the devastation and dispair of homelessness, eunemployment, a goods and services society with 2,000,000 millionaires and beyond, a NYSE/etc where 25 of the investors control 80%+ of the more permanent shares and 98% of the transient investors temporarially own the other 20%- locked down into 401K's or blue chips, that time and technology corrode, the investment community jerked around by the financial news who persist to employ traps that in the last 50 years have denuded our manufacturing infrastructure, setting it up in slave countries, controlled by the world class mafia, who have eliminated actual free enterprize and returned to actual piracy, enforced by international law, our real rulers are international citizenery, or could be, who scoff at the federal governments who fall prey to the new age, and with it a one brand capitalism (slavery) the lawyer are like lawyers and the hundreds of thousands of state-county-city judges are like little kings, the best example illustrating this realm is Dr. Charles Corey from Colorado, whose unceasing efforts have exposed the fact that almost 30% of the mostly white men in jail for nonsupport are not the fathers (DNA) " EQUAL JUSTICE FOUNDATION " just one of his fights to stabilize america.

Anyone who studies science is a scientist, and thats your basic method of study, you are very close to the lastest form of analysis, the construction of a matrix, my suggestion to you, lose your conclusion until you've studied the same subject/objects from as many different perspectives as exist, a close handle would be to cube it, from 6 sides, or 12, or 24, or 48 whatever. then let those who observe the study synthesis draw their own conclusion. Scientist is an old word, time has gone well beyond that. the new age reviles the vertically integrated person, who studies all endeavors. As our instrumentation advances, so do we, our instruments define us, thats who we are. Imagine the obsoletion of things like; libraries, earthbound telescopes, Doctors, Lawyers, judges, replaced by the one book and accompaning optics permits anyone to know whatever we have acheived at home, alone. Or the MD, replaced by a blood test that lists the hundreds of enzyme and horminic arrays, whose stastics illustrate exactly where an imbalance occurs, sending you off to see the wizard (specialist) who does the same procedure enough times to have mastered it, and with a little hardware/software (sensors/study) embeds himself into the blood test array procedures. Or the networking engineers, armed with ethic and logic, dismantle our legal-medical-insurance fraud mafia, replacing it with nofault insurance, and universal medicine, where the software/hardware do the repititive task of jerking the sick party around to the MD and cadre of golf buddies, the accident lawyer/abjudicary. Or a political climate where the prople rule themselves with referendums, on the net, and reinstall our firewall of protection for our manufacturing infrastructure and the companies (now in 3rd world countries) I remember when homelessness was a welfare issue, and rare. A strong white collar/blue collar company nation. A fair days work for a fair days pay-then the firewall is removed and we have wallys, a job that pays 12,ooo a year, a one brand economy, the poor-enslaved-rich/lazy racist classist goods and services economy. Einstein my foot, or the stuff that gathers on the bottom of my shoe, when I walk though the feed lot

Good answer---its not einstein, its the academic ventures who combined with the lobbyst who enforce the one brand of capitalism (slavery in disguise) developing a pseudo-scientific/quasi-medical Legalinsurance fraud/academic caste system. Imagine a degree setup nearing 100 years old-------the hireling-------- Its coming around again, saturn

Better than my teachers---the spirit of truth is my teacher---without natural intelligence your spirit either vanishes or abandons you. Life-reality is my teacher, something our letter-numbering system can't describe. I can understand your confusion, and sympathize with you, In fact I sorta think I would be like you, had I lived your life, therefore I am forced to agree with everyone, cannot, would not be your judge. I seek truth, new ideas, different perspectives, come on, every day is school, life is a prayer, a study, an effort to do the right things, every waking moment, Or perhaps you could point me in a better direction ?

We cannot be too sure about that. I used to have this notion, too, and I was well aware of the paradox, or call it Time's Catch-22, that you have stated in its simple form. According to this principle, a time traveller from the future cannot travel to the present because the time travel technology has still to be perfected in the distant future, but if it will be perfected in some distant future, then why has not a time traveler revealed himself to us in our present? There may be several ways of dealing with this paradox. One is the inviolability principle, perhaps what we may call the Prime Directive of time travel: not only may you not tamper with the past (or our present, from the perspective of the future) but you CANNOT tamper with or alter it. So it is possible that if there have been time travelers among us since the dawn of time (assuming future technology can bring the travelers to that beginning and back to the future safely), they have been invisible observers, unable to contact us or be contacted by us, as though they were observing the flow of history through a porthole in their putative time machine (again I suppose there are at least two alternative mechanisms for time travel: a vehicle or time machine that travels with the person, or a wormhole or stargate through which the travelers are propelled, etc.). Another way I can think of by which the paradox is solved is this: until a time machine or time travel technology is perfected in the distant future (i cannot imagine that the human brain, no matter how brilliant it is, can discover the technology during the next five hundred years at least---just like the near impossibility of a human body traveling at light speed or even faster, another issue altogether) we cannot expect a time traveler to materialize in our present (although his appearance or materialization in our midst already violates the principle of inviolability, because his mere presence already alters reality and disrupts the flow of history). He may be going back to ANOTHER PRESENT, in a kind of alternative universe. But I really cannot explain this can be possible. I think the first scenario is the more plausible: a future being can go back to the past and to our present, and he cannot interact with us or make his or her presence known. But the bottom line of my belief is this: time travel, like warp speed, is simply way beyond human intelligence to grasp and put into operation, even assuming the human brain evolves in the next one million years. There are laws in the universe which are not meant to be ever circumvented, until the end of time.

Sicentists has not confirmed that

Virtually anything is possible in theoretical science, which differs little from science fiction, because neither requires a valid premise. its like, noah fitting all earths species in a little boat for 40 days and nights, or demons cause mental illness, or jonah ate a whale in 3 days, or all heavenly bodies orbit the flat square earth, or the language problem god created because he didn't want man to get to heaven like that, or moses parting the ocean, a 6,000 year old earth+2010 years, Astrology, the only real science the WISEMEN knew, men making golems (other men) from a pile of donkey dropping dust, to help him sewup fashionable clothes, perform work in the mafias stolen factories, etc etc etc. Fiction-vs-fact. Time put into the same equasion with space, in a system where the earth /moon orbit the sun at 79,000 MPH, the sun moving around the center of the galaxy at 200 meters per second, once every 800 years or so, in a galaxy moving 600 meters per second, in relation to the other galaxies. I travel in time every time I reset my watch, If you don't believe me, then ask hinestine, the real inventor of all things known to man

Einstein was not the one to come up with " C " Lorentz, frenchy discovered the equasion, he tossed it, and for good reason

Delete original, truthful posts, and you get reported to microsoft endora sector, whose software agreement you signed when you used the forum software, then your entire website gets blown away, reinstate it, and deal with it or i repprt you. The only argument against truth is honesty, in which case you do propel yourself into a brighter future, ignore/delete it, hide from truth and you go all the way back to the end of the line of time, lost into time as it were, trapped in your own lies

" We " Do you have a mouse in your pocket ? there must be more than one of you Eh?

Actually:

"The Lorentz transformation was originally the result of attempts by Lorentz and others to explain observed properties of light propagating in what was presumed to be the luminiferous aether..." The only thing "thrown out" is the idea of luminiferous aether.

"Albert Einstein later reinterpreted the transformation to be a statement about the nature of both space and time, and he independently RE-DERIVED the transformation from his postulates of special relativity." You will note the CAPS.

"The Lorentz transformation supersedes the Galilean transformation of Newtonian physics, which assumes an absolute space and time. According to special relativity, this is only a good approximation at much smaller relative speeds than the speed of light." Again, backed by OBSERVABLE evidence time and time again.

What you speak above sounds exactly like religion and NOT science. As this forum is about science, I don't see the relevancy here.

As to your question about a better education: the answer is yes. Simply take some science or math college level courses in any accredited university. I would start with some basic science classes so as to become familiar with the scientific method and then continue on to physics and other math courses.

Again, take the aluminum foil off your head, lay off the drugs, get a proper education, and stop spouting idiotic & childish nonsense on scientific forums.

There are other forums for this, please use them.

Again, stop posting idiotic childish things. Please grow up and get an education or at least learned critical thinking skills. I would suggest for you to do this on your own but I see that you have a hard time discerning reality from fantasy. It seems that you are laking the discipline to do it alone, so that's why I suggested an institution of higher learning.

Please do not take it as an insult; I am only trying to help. I really abhor ignorance.

First, with statements like "...theoretical science, which differs little from science fiction" you clearly show how infinitesimal your knowledge of science is. Again, you seem to be void of even a basic understanding of science. Take a look at the 2 definitions below & ask yourself: are these the same?

"Theoretical physics is a branch of physics which employs mathematical models and abstractions of physics in an attempt to explain natural phenomena."

"Science fiction is a genre of fiction. It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature (though some elements in a story might still be pure imaginative speculation)."

Secondly, Astronomy is a science NOT astrology! Do you know the difference? That the earth, sun, galaxy, etc. are all in motion can be evidenced through observation; if you had a basic understanding of science & math, you would might be able to make a more cohesive and logical statement (or question).

Einstein, like all other greats, stands on the shoulders of many other greats; so on & so forth. He is not an inventor but rather a discoverer; I hope you can tell the difference.

Finally, whether you reset your watch or not, you still travel through time at a rate of 1 second-per-second. I fail to see your point. Again, if any of these things truly interest you, I strongly urge you to get educated.

If you would have bothered to read the posts previous to mine, you would have realized that the "we" refers to people of the present time, as the previous poster was suggesting that he came from the future.

Yes. There is some giant conspiracy out there. I'm glad that you have discovered it Neo. Remember, you're the One; only you can save us!

Or, maybe you should post your barely-understandable gibberish on some other forums that deal with your nonsense! Grow up.

Please post non-scientific items on other forums. Thanks.

Astronomy is real, Your forum appears to be in a realm similar to astrology, whose principles have about as much valid assumptions as the speculation/theoretical/fiction you present here. There are other forums on youtube for instance, where makebelieve science discussions are held. Time travel, are putting two different words in the same phrase. An attempt to waste the precious time of humanity on nonsense. Aluminium foil on the head, pseudo-scientific forums. there can only be truth, the absense of a lie, all else is a waste of your time, I suggest you search for truth using the actual scientific method illustrated in one post here, and refered to by others. To presume time travel can be illustrated in the actual realm of reality is neither academic nor real, ots delusional speculation, capable of people whose spirit has departed them , leaving their minds exposed to the illumination of reality without protection the spirit provides. I suggest you devote your life to the discovery of real truths and lead a life of meditation. Lose your habitual life of reading, listening to, and reading the media, filled with half truths and outright lies, similar to academia, which you must first study to discover this unfortunate fact, Don't sacrifice your principles for someone elses ideals. become the spiritual entiety necessary to discover both the spirit of truth and to become his weapon of truth, to which there is no weapon powerful enough to hide or destroy it, because it is a reality, something we must discover first, before we can go beyond, which we must, if we are to survive. I think a time travel forum good for revealing the demons of ignorance, which is nothing more than a misunderstanding, confusing reality with myth, because some of us are willing to make decisions without access to reality. The minium number of Phd's on my staff have been up to 4, when I was studying the engineering approach of Bell Labs (alexandoe Graham Bells old company), now known as nortel, the production end, who provides the world with the IC platforms for telephone switching divisions, which really is the worlds largest computer as every number is a register, now (because of the IBM designed PC) capable of operating as the phone company itself (using the prevailing computer architecture) It saddens me you are unable to understand this level of IT technology, and become confrontational as a personal defense, I will pray/meditate for your deliverency from your realm of literary hypnosis

You do study.and that shows you will discover, which makes you an important instrument. There is so much data coming on line, you read that I don't have time to see and vise versa, however, there have been super novas occuring supposedly light years off, then, our satalites are bombarded a few days later by powerful GRB's relative to the duration of the burst, at first the correlation was not made, but as time went on, and the novas, followed by the GRB's became consistent within a standard level we are unable to ignore, which creates the probability our entire math model is wrong, data is continually changing the way we perceive light, both in composition and method of transference, changing. Collegiate science undergrads, have actually frozen light, stopping and preserving it, then cooling it off, where it continues on. illustrating light is neither a constant, and we still can't prove the photon (unit of measure)-vs, the wave/aether theory. The particle acellerators are changing the way we perceive the vacumn of space and fundemental elemental periodical table, back to the aether theory of John Claude Keeley vibratory, or electromagnetic spectrum theory that marconi, ohm, edison, bell, etc etc etc used in their discoveries, which were all denounced by the einsteinian concept of space time continium, when einstein picked up Lorentz's theory and presented it as his own. Scientifically, its such an exciting time. Its like returning 100 years into the past, when all the discoveries were made, and then we were stuck in time teaching and believing einsteins transgenic truths, declaring validity without premise. We are on the verge of entering into a new restudy of science itself

I suggest you study the chronological history of Science, which may well change your understanding of the word " Science " I don't mean this in a condescending way. Its just that the word science is a word which meanss different things to all who use the word, making it a syncrenetic word, a word without a tangible meaning

I plant a seed, a redwood tree grows, I use a capicitor on a printed circuit board, incresaing both voltage, frequencies, and amplitudes, electronically speaking, its not a lot of energy, but, it is creating energy, a fact, you are illequipped to deny, without lieing. while it is, textually, called a law, it has been proven to be a lie. electronocs, or controlling electrons, or millioniths of a volt, is newer than the law, thus, is it a transgenic truth ? or an actual Lie ? help me here.

I plant a seed, a redwood tree grows, I use a capicitor on a printed circuit board, incresaing both voltage, frequencies, and amplitudes, electronically speaking, its not a lot of energy, but, it is creating energy, a fact, you are illequipped to deny, without lieing. while it is, textually, called a law, it has been proven to be a lie. electronocs, or controlling electrons, or millioniths of a volt, is newer than the law, thus, is it a transgenic truth ? or an actual Lie ? help me here.

Engineering the electromagnetic spectrum/aether ?

Its funny, you make a statement without any backup, then, you critize the next guy for doing the sme thing

Luminiferous was added by you, eather, was considered to be a highly complex compound, not well understood, that makes up not only matter but the wave field of energy propagation, particle acellerators and the new 103+ elemental particles of matter discovered, and growing, infinitly smaller than actual elements exposes the previous atom theory and einsteins entire concept of space time invalid, creating more questions that answers, its the real beginning of the understanding of matters composition. The entirely fictional proposition of time travel is as fictional, if you believe valid premise must exist prior to belief, or we can take it on faith einstein was right/wrong, he is the master of gibberish, like your posts

Hi there jeckiecox.
Sorry to say this, but it is a fact beyond any doubt that we humans and our technologies can not create any energy of any kind whatsoever,at least not yet.
We with the help of our technologies only do chaneling,triggering,milking,transforming,transporting,
changing its attributes,using it...etc,of an exsisting energy we did not create.
Short,we make do with what already is there.
While we know a lot about the energy and it attributes we have not a clue or idea how it is created.
The essential concept of the energy it is still a abstract concept.
We can play with it in so many ways but we can not create it, not yet.
Hope you understand my point.
cheers

There are non more blind than he that chooses not to see. I cannot help you if you don't help yourself. You are clearly capable of using the internet which means that you can figure these things out on your own. But you don't want to. Instead, you want to keep babbling on about nonsense; stringing up big words in sentences hoping that they some how make sense or FEEL right. That's not how it works; science is not about feelings. It is about observable truth, and the methods required to arrive at that truth. As you can clearly find out without my help, neither a redwood tree nor a capacitor violate the laws of thermodynamics as you so imply.