Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire
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Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire is the sixth studio album by Bonnie Tyler
. Released in 1986 peaked at no.24 on the UK album chart and no.106 in the US, though the album gained success in continental Europe.
Like its predecessor, it is produced by Jim Steinman
and it features four of his songs. Among them are "Ravishing," the duet "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It
" (with Todd Rundgren
) and the hit "Holding Out for a Hero
", which was previously included on the soundtrack of the movie Footloose.
The song "Under Suspicion" (written by Tyler, Paul Hopkins and Peter Oxendale) was included on the cassette version of the album and as the B-side to the "Loving You's a Dirty Job ..." and "If You Were a Woman" singles.
"Before This Night Is Through" did not appear on the vinyl LP version of the album.
Although this album was released after Piledriver - The Wrestling Album 2
, an instrumental version of "Ravishing" was used as the theme song to the 1985-1987 CBS
Saturday morning animated series, Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling.
Bonnie Tyler
Bonnie Tyler is a Welsh singer, most notable for her hits in the 1970s and 1980s including "It's a Heartache", "Holding Out for a Hero" and "Total Eclipse of the Heart".-Early life:...
. Released in 1986 peaked at no.24 on the UK album chart and no.106 in the US, though the album gained success in continental Europe.
Like its predecessor, it is produced by Jim Steinman
Jim Steinman
James Richard "Jim" Steinman is an American composer, lyricist, and Grammy Award-winning record producer responsible for several hit songs. He has also worked as an arranger, pianist, and singer...
and it features four of his songs. Among them are "Ravishing," the duet "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It
Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It
"Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It" is a pop song written and composed by Jim Steinman and has been released in 1986 by Bonnie Tyler in duet with Todd Rundgren...
" (with Todd Rundgren
Todd Rundgren
Todd Harry Rundgren is an American multi-instrumentalist, songwriter and record producer. Hailed in the early stage of his career as a new pop-wunderkind, supported by the certified gold solo double LP Something/Anything? in 1972, Todd Rundgren's career has produced a diverse range of recordings...
) and the hit "Holding Out for a Hero
Holding Out for a Hero
"Holding Out for a Hero" is a song written by Jim Steinman and Dean Pitchford, originally recorded by Bonnie Tyler. It was released in 1984 on the soundtrack to the film Footloose. It later appeared on Tyler's Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire album. It hit #96 for the first time in UK in 1984,...
", which was previously included on the soundtrack of the movie Footloose.
Track listing
- "Ravishing" – 6:24 (Jim SteinmanJim SteinmanJames Richard "Jim" Steinman is an American composer, lyricist, and Grammy Award-winning record producer responsible for several hit songs. He has also worked as an arranger, pianist, and singer...
) - "If You Were a Woman and I Was a ManIf You Were a Woman and I Was a Man"If You Were a Woman " is a song that was written and composed by Desmond Child and recorded by Bonnie Tyler.Produced by Jim Steinman, the dramatic, rock-leaning song was released as the first single from her 1986 album Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire...
" – 5:15 (Desmond ChildDesmond ChildDesmond Child is an American musician, songwriter, and producer. He is a member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame.-Career:...
) - "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do ItLoving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It"Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It" is a pop song written and composed by Jim Steinman and has been released in 1986 by Bonnie Tyler in duet with Todd Rundgren...
" (Duet with Todd RundgrenTodd RundgrenTodd Harry Rundgren is an American multi-instrumentalist, songwriter and record producer. Hailed in the early stage of his career as a new pop-wunderkind, supported by the certified gold solo double LP Something/Anything? in 1972, Todd Rundgren's career has produced a diverse range of recordings...
) – 7:47 (Jim Steinman) - "No Way to Treat a Lady" – 5:17 (Bryan AdamsBryan AdamsBryan Adams, is a Canadian rock singer-songwriter, guitarist, bassist, producer, actor and photographer. Adams has won dozens of awards and nominations, including 20 Juno Awards among 56 nominations. He has also received 15 Grammy Award nominations including a win for Best Song Written...
, Jim VallanceJim VallanceJames Douglas "Jim" Vallance, OC is a retired Canadian musician, songwriter, arranger and producer based out of Vancouver, British Columbia. He is best known as the former songwriting partner of Canadian international recording artist Bryan Adams...
) - "Band of GoldBand Of Gold (Freda Payne song)"Band of Gold" is a popular song written by Holland–Dozier–Holland under the pseudonym Edythe Wayne, and Ron Dunbar, and first recorded by Freda Payne...
" – 5:49 (Edyth Wayne, Ronald Dunbar) - "Rebel Without a Clue" – 8:35 (Jim Steinman)
- "Lovers Again" – 4:32 (Desmond Child)
- "Before This Night Is Through" – 5:21 (Beppe Cantarelli, Adrienne Anderson)
- "Holding Out for a HeroHolding Out for a Hero"Holding Out for a Hero" is a song written by Jim Steinman and Dean Pitchford, originally recorded by Bonnie Tyler. It was released in 1984 on the soundtrack to the film Footloose. It later appeared on Tyler's Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire album. It hit #96 for the first time in UK in 1984,...
" – 5:48 (Jim Steinman, Dean PitchfordDean PitchfordDean Pitchford is an American songwriter, screenwriter, director, actor, and novelist. His work has earned him an Oscar and a Golden Globe Award, as well as nominations for three additional Oscars, two more Golden Globes, seven Grammy Awards and two Tony Awards.-Early life:Pitchford was born in...
)
-
- Arranged by Jim Steinman, Roy Bittan and the Musicians
- Backing Vocals arranged by Todd Rundgren, Eric Troyer, Rory Dodd and Ellen FoleyEllen FoleyEllen Foley is an American singer and actress, who has appeared on Broadway and television, where she co-starred in the sitcom Night Court. In music, she has released three solo albums but is best known for her collaborations with the singer Meat Loaf.- Early life and career :Foley was born in St....
The song "Under Suspicion" (written by Tyler, Paul Hopkins and Peter Oxendale) was included on the cassette version of the album and as the B-side to the "Loving You's a Dirty Job ..." and "If You Were a Woman" singles.
"Before This Night Is Through" did not appear on the vinyl LP version of the album.
Although this album was released after Piledriver - The Wrestling Album 2
Piledriver - The Wrestling Album 2
Piledriver: The Wrestling Album 2 was an album released by the World Wrestling Federation in 1987. It featured actual vocal performances from several of the wrestlers themselves....
, an instrumental version of "Ravishing" was used as the theme song to the 1985-1987 CBS
CBS
CBS Broadcasting Inc. is a major US commercial broadcasting television network, which started as a radio network. The name is derived from the initials of the network's former name, Columbia Broadcasting System. The network is sometimes referred to as the "Eye Network" in reference to the shape of...
Saturday morning animated series, Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling.
Album
| Chart 1986 | Peak position |
|---|---|
| Norway | 1 |
| Switzerland | 3 |
| Sweden | 6 |
| France | 15 |
| Austria | 23 |
| UK | 24 |
| Germany | 24 |
| Euro Chart | 41 |
| New Zealand | 45 |
| Canada RPM | 94 |
| U.S | 106 |
Singles
| Year | Single | Chart | Position |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1986 | "Holding Out for a Hero Holding Out for a Hero "Holding Out for a Hero" is a song written by Jim Steinman and Dean Pitchford, originally recorded by Bonnie Tyler. It was released in 1984 on the soundtrack to the film Footloose. It later appeared on Tyler's Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire album. It hit #96 for the first time in UK in 1984,... " |
Irish Singles Chart (1985) | 1 |
| UK Singles Chart UK Singles Chart The UK Singles Chart is compiled by The Official Charts Company on behalf of the British record-industry. The full chart contains the top selling 200 singles in the United Kingdom based upon combined record sales and download numbers, though some media outlets only list the Top 40 or the Top 75 ... (1985) |
2 | ||
| EURO CHARTS (1985) | 12 | ||
| German Singles Chart (1984) | 19 | ||
| Canadian Singles Chart (1984) | 19 | ||
| Austrian Singles Chart (1984) | 19 | ||
| Swedish Singles Chart (1984) | 19 | ||
| Italian Singles Chart (1984) | 30 | ||
| New Zealand Singles Chart (1984) | 33 | ||
| U.S. Billboard Singles Chart Billboard Hot 100 The Billboard Hot 100 is the United States music industry standard singles popularity chart issued weekly by Billboard magazine. Chart rankings are based on radio play and sales; the tracking-week for sales begins on Monday and ends on Sunday, while the radio play tracking-week runs from Wednesday... (1984) |
34 | ||
| Australian Singles Chart (1984) | 44 | ||
| UK Singles Chart (1991) | 69 | ||
| UK Singles Chart (1984) | 96 | ||
| "If You Were a Woman and I Was a Man If You Were a Woman and I Was a Man "If You Were a Woman " is a song that was written and composed by Desmond Child and recorded by Bonnie Tyler.Produced by Jim Steinman, the dramatic, rock-leaning song was released as the first single from her 1986 album Secret Dreams and Forbidden Fire... " |
Venezuela | 1 | |
| French SNEP Singles Chart | 6 | ||
| Swiss Singles Chart | 16 | ||
| UK Club Chart | 16 | ||
| New Zealand | 20 | ||
| German Singles Chart | 32 | ||
| Australia | 77 | ||
| U.S. Billboard Singles Chart Billboard Hot 100 The Billboard Hot 100 is the United States music industry standard singles popularity chart issued weekly by Billboard magazine. Chart rankings are based on radio play and sales; the tracking-week for sales begins on Monday and ends on Sunday, while the radio play tracking-week runs from Wednesday... |
77 | ||
| UK Singles Chart UK Singles Chart The UK Singles Chart is compiled by The Official Charts Company on behalf of the British record-industry. The full chart contains the top selling 200 singles in the United Kingdom based upon combined record sales and download numbers, though some media outlets only list the Top 40 or the Top 75 ... |
78 | ||
| Canada RPM | 87 | ||
| "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It "Loving You's a Dirty Job but Somebody's Gotta Do It" is a pop song written and composed by Jim Steinman and has been released in 1986 by Bonnie Tyler in duet with Todd Rundgren... " |
Spain | 6 | |
| Switzerland | 24 | ||
| Germany | 30 | ||
| French | 34 | ||
| UK | 73 | ||
| "Band of Gold Band Of Gold (Freda Payne song) "Band of Gold" is a popular song written by Holland–Dozier–Holland under the pseudonym Edythe Wayne, and Ron Dunbar, and first recorded by Freda Payne... " |
Billboard Hot Dance Breakouts Singles Sales | 6 | |
| UK | 81 | ||
Album credits
- Lead Vocals: Bonnie Tyler
- Guitars (Tracks 1-8): Sid McGinnisSid McGinnisSid McGinnis is an American musician and guitarist, best known for his work on the CBS Television show, Late Show with David Letterman, as part of the CBS Orchestra....
- Guitars (Tracks 3, 5, 6): Eddie MartinezEddie MartinezEddie Martinez is an American guitarist, born and raised in New York City, who mainly functions as a session musician. He has worked with David Lee Roth , Run-D.M.C. , Robert Palmer , Meat Loaf , several Jim Steinman projects, and many others...
- Guitars (Tracks 8-9): Hiram BullockHiram BullockHiram Law Bullock was an American jazz funk and jazz fusion guitarist.He was born in Osaka, Japan to African American parents serving in the U.S. Military. At the age of two he returned to Baltimore, Maryland with his parents, and quickly showed a prodigious musical talent...
- Bass: Steve Buslowe
- Piano and Synthesizers: Roy BittanRoy BittanRoy Bittan is an American keyboardist, best known as a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, which he joined on August 23, 1974...
- Piano, Synthesizers and Linn Drums (Track 9): Sterling Smith
- Synthesizers and Programming (Tracks 1-8): Larry FastLarry FastLawrence Roger 'Larry' Fast is a synthesizer expert and composer. He is best known for Synergy, his 1975–1987 series of synthesizer music albums, and for his contribution to a number of popular music acts, including Peter Gabriel, Foreigner, and Hall and Oates.- Biography :Fast grew up in...
- Synthesizers and Programming (Track 9): Phil Shenale
- Saxophone (Track 2): Lenny Pickett
- Horns (Track 9): Tom MaloneTom Malone (musician)Tom "Bones" Malone is an American jazz musician. As his nickname implies, he specializes on the trombone, but also plays trumpet, tuba, tenor sax, baritone sax, flutes, piccolo, and other instruments....
, Michael BreckerMichael BreckerMichael Leonard Brecker was an American jazz saxophonist and composer. Acknowledged as "a quiet, gentle musician widely regarded as the most influential tenor saxophonist since John Coltrane," he has been awarded 15 Grammy Awards as both performer and composer and was inducted into Down Beat Jazz...
, Alan RubinAlan RubinAlan Rubin , also known as Mr. Fabulous, was an American musician. He played trumpet, flugelhorn, and piccolo trumpet....
, Lew SoloffLew SoloffLew Soloff is a jazz trumpeter, composer and actor. He studied trumpet at the Eastman School of Music and the Juilliard School. He is likely best known for his work with Blood, Sweat & Tears from 1968 to 1973...
, Jim PughJim PughJim Pugh is a former professional tennis player from the United States. A doubles specialist, he won three Grand Slam men's doubles titles and five Grand Slam mixed doubles titles . Pugh reached the World No...
, Dave Taylor - Drums (Tracks 4-5, 8): Max WeinbergMax WeinbergMax Weinberg is an American drummer and television personality, most widely known as the longtime drummer for Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band and as the bandleader for Conan O'Brien on Late Night with Conan O'Brien and The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien.Weinberg grew up in suburban New Jersey...
- Drums (Tracks 1-3, 5-6): Jimmy Bralower
- Simmons and Linn Drums (Track 9): Art WoodArt WoodArthur "Art" Wood was a British blues, pop and rock singer, who led The Artwoods in the 1960s and subsequently became a graphic artist. He was the brother of Ronnie Wood of The Rolling Stones.-Life:...
- Additional Drum Programming (Track 6): Joe Stefko
- Additional Lead Vocals (Track 6), Backing Vocals: Todd RundgrenTodd RundgrenTodd Harry Rundgren is an American multi-instrumentalist, songwriter and record producer. Hailed in the early stage of his career as a new pop-wunderkind, supported by the certified gold solo double LP Something/Anything? in 1972, Todd Rundgren's career has produced a diverse range of recordings...
- Backing Vocals: Tawatha Agee (Track 1), Rory DoddRory DoddRory Dodd is a Canadian rock vocalist who has performed many songs written by Jim Steinman. He is probably best known for singing the "Turn around, bright eyes" lyrics on Bonnie Tyler's version of "Total Eclipse of the Heart."...
, Curtis KingCurtis KingCurtis Albert King is a former pitcher in Major League Baseball. He played for the St. Louis Cardinals.-External links:...
(Track 1), Cindy Mizelli (Track 1), Holly SherwoodHolly SherwoodHolly Sherwood is an American rock vocalist, best known for her work with Jim Steinman, providing both lead and backing vocals.-Acting Career:...
(Tracks 7-9), Eric TroyerEric TroyerEric Lee Troyer is an American keyboardist, singer, songwriter, and occasional guitarist, best known as a member of ELO Part II and its successor, popular live band, The Orchestra. Troyer was a founding member of ELO Part II, having been recruited by band leader Bev Bevan in 1989.-Life and...
Production
- Producers: Jim SteinmanJim SteinmanJames Richard "Jim" Steinman is an American composer, lyricist, and Grammy Award-winning record producer responsible for several hit songs. He has also worked as an arranger, pianist, and singer...
, Roy BittanRoy BittanRoy Bittan is an American keyboardist, best known as a member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, which he joined on August 23, 1974...
, John Jansen, Larry FastLarry FastLawrence Roger 'Larry' Fast is a synthesizer expert and composer. He is best known for Synergy, his 1975–1987 series of synthesizer music albums, and for his contribution to a number of popular music acts, including Peter Gabriel, Foreigner, and Hall and Oates.- Biography :Fast grew up in...
, John Rollo - Associate Producer: Alan Rubin
- Engineering: Steve Rinkoff, Alan Rubin
- Assistant Engineer: Nelson Ayres
- Mixing: Larry Alexander, Sir Arthur Payson
- Mastering: Greg Calbi