New York Giants (soccer)
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New York Giants was a name used by three different New York
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 soccer
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 teams. Two of these teams were associated with the New York Giants
San Francisco Giants
The San Francisco Giants are a Major League Baseball team based in San Francisco, California, playing in the National League West Division....

 baseball
Baseball
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 franchise. The first team that used the name played in the American League of Professional Football
American League of Professional Football
American League of Professional Football was the first professional soccer league in the United States, existing for one season in 1894. It was also one of the earliest professional leagues in the world...

 in 1894. The second team played in the American Soccer League
American Soccer League
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 between 1923 and 1930 while the third team played in the same league between 1930 and 1932.

The two Giants of the ASL were involved in a confusing name change. In 1930 after the original ASL Giants changed their name to New York Soccer Club
New York Soccer Club
New York Soccer Club was the name of a New York soccer team that, in 1930, played briefly in the American Soccer League. Between 1923 and 1930 they had been known as the New York Giants. In 1930 they merged with the Fall River Marksmen to become the New York Yankees. Then in 1931 this club absorbed...

, a rival team, the New York Nationals then changed their name to the Giants. One player, Davey Brown
Davey Brown
David “Davey” Brown is a former U.S. soccer forward. He spent most of his career playing for teams in New Jersey and New York, gaining his greatest fame with the New York Giants...

 actually transferred from the original Giants to the Nationals, in effect moving from the Giants to the Giants. In 1931 the new Giants became ASL champions after beating New Bedford Whalers, a successor team of the original Giants, in a play-off.

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In 1894 six baseball
Baseball
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 franchises belonging to the National League
National League
The National League of Professional Baseball Clubs, known simply as the National League , is the older of two leagues constituting Major League Baseball, and the world's oldest extant professional team sports league. Founded on February 2, 1876, to replace the National Association of Professional...

 organised the ALPF
American League of Professional Football
American League of Professional Football was the first professional soccer league in the United States, existing for one season in 1894. It was also one of the earliest professional leagues in the world...

, the first professional soccer league in the United States
United States
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. Apart from the New York Giants, the other teams who took part were Brooklyn Dodgers, Baltimore Orioles
Baltimore Orioles F.C.
Baltimore Orioles F.C. were a soccer club based in Baltimore, Maryland. The club was formed in 1893 and in 1895 the club folded. They were sponsored by the National League 19th century Baltimore Orioles baseball club. They played in the shortly lived league of the American League of Professional...

, Boston Beaneaters, Philadelphia Phillies
Philadelphia Phillies
The Philadelphia Phillies are a Major League Baseball team. They are the oldest continuous, one-name, one-city franchise in all of professional American sports, dating to 1883. The Phillies are a member of the Eastern Division of Major League Baseball's National League...

 and Washington Senators
Washington Senators (1891-1899)
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. The 1894 Giants played in an all white kit with black socks and played their home matches at the Polo Grounds
Polo Grounds
The Polo Grounds was the name given to four different stadiums in Upper Manhattan, New York City, used by many professional teams in both baseball and American football from 1880 until 1963...

. Organizational and financial problems caused the ALPF to fold before the season was completed. At the time the Giants were placed fourth after winning two games out of six.

New York Giants II

The next New York Giants played in the American Soccer League
American Soccer League
The American Soccer League has been a name used by three different professional soccer leagues in the United States. The first American Soccer League was established in 1921 by the merger of teams from the National Association Football League and the Southern New England Soccer League. For...

 between 1923 and 1930. They were formed when Maurice Vanderweghe purchased the then 1923 National Challenge Cup
1923 National Challenge Cup
The 1922–23 National Challenge Cup was the annual open cup held by the United States Football Association now known as the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup.-Open Cup Bracket:Home teams listed on top of bracket: replay after tied match...

 holders, Paterson F.C. and moved them to New York for the 1923–24 season.
In 1926 they reached the final of the Lewis Cup but lost 5–4 over two games to New Bedford Whalers. During 1926 the Giants also provided opposition for touring European teams. On May 29 they lost 2–1 to SC Hakoah Wien and on then on September 12 they lost 6–0 to Sparta Prague.
After their tour, several Hakoah players opted to stay in the United States and in subsequent seasons Béla Guttmann
Béla Guttmann
Béla Guttmann was a Jewish Hungarian footballer and coach. He played as a midfielder for MTK Hungária FC, SC Hakoah Wien, Hungary and several clubs in the United States. However he is perhaps best remembered as a coach and manager of some the world’s leading football teams, including AC Milan, São...

, Erno Schwarz
Erno Schwarz
Ernö Schwarz or Schwarcz was a Hungarian American soccer player, coach and promoter who served as head coach of the United States men's national soccer team. He played professionally in Hungary, Czeckoslavakia, Austria and the United States, earning two caps, scoring two goals, with the Hungarian...

, Egon Pollack
Egon Pollack
Gustav "Egon" or "Erwin" Pollak was an Austrian footballer who played for the famed, SC Hakoah Wien . He was also the first ever manager of the Israeli national football team in their 3-1 loss to the United States just after gaining independence.-Club career:Pollak began his career with SC Hakoah...

, Max Grünwald
Max Grünwald
Max Grünwald was an early twentieth century Austrian football inside forward who played professionally in Austria and the United States.-Club career:...

, Moritz Häusler
Moritz Häusler
Moses “Moritz” or “Moschkatz” Häusler was an early twentieth century Austrian football inside forward who played professionally in Austria and the United States...

 and Max Gold
Max Gold
Max Gold was an early twentieth century Austrian football right full back who played professionally in Austria and the United States. He also earned two caps with the Austrian national team in 1922....

 all played for the Giants. In the Summer of 1927 SC Hakoah Wien returned for another tour and several of their former players, then playing for the Giants, joined them as guests. During this tour the Giants again played Hakoah and on May 1 held them to a 2–2 draw.
In 1928 the Giants found themselves at the center of the Soccer War, a power struggle between the ASL
American Soccer League
The American Soccer League has been a name used by three different professional soccer leagues in the United States. The first American Soccer League was established in 1921 by the merger of teams from the National Association Football League and the Southern New England Soccer League. For...

 and the US Football Association. The ASL called for their members to boycott the USFA-organized National Challenge Cup. However the Giants, together with Bethlehem Steel
Bethlehem Steel
The Bethlehem Steel Corporation , based in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, was once the second-largest steel producer in the United States, after Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania-based U.S. Steel. After a decline in the U.S...

 and Newark Skeeters
Newark Skeeters
The Newark Skeeters was an American soccer club based in Newark, New Jersey and was a member of the American Soccer League and the Eastern Soccer League.The club folded upon the merger of the ASL & ESL after the fall 1929 season.-Year-by-year:...

, were one of three teams that defied the ASL and entered anyway. This trio of clubs subsequently left the ASL to join the new USFA-organized Eastern Soccer League. Maurice Vanderweghe, while continuing to own the Giants franchise, also set up the New York Hakoah
New York Hakoah
New York Hakoah is a former United States soccer club based in New York City.-New York Hakoah I:Originally formed by former players from SC Hakoah Wien, including among others Béla Guttmann and Rudolph Nickolsburger, they initially played in the Eastern Soccer League in the fall of 1928. In 1929...

 franchise for the ESL. The core of this new team was made up from former SC Hakoah Wien players then playing for the Giants. 1929 also saw the Giants continue to play touring European teams. In March 1929 they played Sabaria of Budapest
Budapest
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 in a two game series, losing 6–4 and winning 21. Then on May 19 they drew 1–1 with Preston North End
Preston North End F.C.
Preston North End Football Club is an English professional football club located in the Deepdale area of the city of Preston, Lancashire, currently playing in the third tier of English league football, League One...

.
By the end of 1929 the ASL/USFA dispute was resolved and the ASL and ESL were merged. The Giants were readmitted and New York Hakoah
New York Hakoah
New York Hakoah is a former United States soccer club based in New York City.-New York Hakoah I:Originally formed by former players from SC Hakoah Wien, including among others Béla Guttmann and Rudolph Nickolsburger, they initially played in the Eastern Soccer League in the fall of 1928. In 1929...

 joined the ASL for the first time. Since Maurice Vandeweghe owned both the Giants and Hakoah he was forced to sell Hakoah to comply with ASL rules. Four Giants players – Jim Brown
Jim Brown (soccer)
James "Jim" Brown was a Scottish American association football player who played for the United States men's national soccer team at the 1930 FIFA World Cup, scoring the only goal of the American team in their 6-1 semi-final loss to Argentina...

, George Moorhouse
George Moorhouse
George Moorhouse is, reputedly, the first Englishman to appear in a FIFA World Cup. He spent most of his playing career in the United States and earned seven caps with the U.S. national team. He was a member of the U.S. teams at the 1930 FIFA World Cup and 1934 FIFA World Cup...

, Shamus O'Brien
Shamus O'Brien
William Shamus O’Brien was a U.S.-Scottish soccer inside left. During his Hall of Fame career, O’Brien spent eight seasons in the first American Soccer League and another five in the second American Soccer League.-Youth:While born in Scotland, O’Brien’s family immigrated to the United States when...

 and Philip Slone
Philip Slone
Philip "Phil" Slone was a U.S. soccer wing half. He spent a single season each in the short lived Eastern Soccer League and Atlantic Coast Conference, then ten years in the American Soccer League...

 – were included in the United States
United States men's national soccer team
The United States men's national soccer team represents the United States in international association football competitions. It is controlled by the United States Soccer Federation and competes in CONCACAF...

 squad for the 1930 World Cup
1930 FIFA World Cup squads
-Argentina:Head coach: Francisco Olazar and Juan José Tramutola-Chile:Head coach: György Orth-France:Head coach: Raoul Caudron-Mexico:Head coach: Juan Luque de Serralonga...


In subsequent seasons the club was involved in several name changes and mergers. They briefly played as the New York Soccer Club
New York Soccer Club
New York Soccer Club was the name of a New York soccer team that, in 1930, played briefly in the American Soccer League. Between 1923 and 1930 they had been known as the New York Giants. In 1930 they merged with the Fall River Marksmen to become the New York Yankees. Then in 1931 this club absorbed...

 before merging with the Fall River Marksmen
Fall River Marksmen
Fall River Marksmen was a United States soccer club, based in Fall River, Massachusetts. They originally played as Fall River United before becoming known as the Marksmen after their owner, Sam Mark. During the 1920s and early 1930s they were one of the most successful soccer clubs in the United...

 in 1931 to become the New York Yankees
New York Yankees (soccer)
New York Yankees were a New York soccer team that played briefly in the American Soccer League. They were formed following the merger of Fall River Marksmen and New York Soccer Club. Although the Yankees survived only a short time, they beat Celtic in a prestige friendly and effectively won the...

. They later moved to New Bedford, Massachusetts
New Bedford, Massachusetts
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 and became the New Bedford Whalers.

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In 1927 Charles Stoneham
Charles Stoneham
Charles A. Stoneham was the owner of the New York Giants baseball team, New York Giants soccer team, the center of numerous corruption scandals and the instigator of the "Soccer Wars" which destroyed the American Soccer League.-Business ventures:Stoneham began his career as a board boy, updating...

, owner of the New York Giants
San Francisco Giants
The San Francisco Giants are a Major League Baseball team based in San Francisco, California, playing in the National League West Division....

 baseball team took over the ASL
American Soccer League
The American Soccer League has been a name used by three different professional soccer leagues in the United States. The first American Soccer League was established in 1921 by the merger of teams from the National Association Football League and the Southern New England Soccer League. For...

 Indiana Flooring
Indiana Flooring
Indiana Flooring were a New York soccer team that played in the American Soccer League between 1924 and 1927. They replaced New York Field Club. Before joining the ASL, the team had played in various state leagues....

 franchise. He wanted to rename the team the Giants. However as there was already a New York Giants in the ASL, Stoneham had to settle for renaming his soccer team New York Nationals. In 1930 when the original ASL Giants decided to rename themselves the New York Soccer Club
New York Soccer Club
New York Soccer Club was the name of a New York soccer team that, in 1930, played briefly in the American Soccer League. Between 1923 and 1930 they had been known as the New York Giants. In 1930 they merged with the Fall River Marksmen to become the New York Yankees. Then in 1931 this club absorbed...

, Stoneham seized the opportunity to rename the Nationals the New York Giants. The new Giants were subsequently ASL Spring champions in 1931. They also finished as runners-up to New Bedford Whalers in the Fall championship. They then beat Whalers 9–8 on aggregate in a two-game play-off to become overall champions for 1931.

On May 24, 1931 at the Polo Grounds
Polo Grounds
The Polo Grounds was the name given to four different stadiums in Upper Manhattan, New York City, used by many professional teams in both baseball and American football from 1880 until 1963...

 a Giants team featuring Davey Brown
Davey Brown
David “Davey” Brown is a former U.S. soccer forward. He spent most of his career playing for teams in New Jersey and New York, gaining his greatest fame with the New York Giants...

, Jimmy Gallagher
Jimmy Gallagher
Jimmy Gallagher was a Scottish American soccer right wing midfielder who spent eleven seasons in the American Soccer League. He was a member of the U.S. soccer teams at the 1930 FIFA World Cup and 1934 FIFA World Cup...

 and Bart McGhee
Bart McGhee
Bartholomew “Bertie” or “Bart” McGhee was an American soccer forward who typically played left wing forward. He played for the United States men's national soccer team at the 1930 FIFA World Cup, and scored the second goal in World Cup history against Belgium. He was inducted into the U.S...

 lost 3–2 in a friendly against Celtic
Celtic F.C.
Celtic Football Club is a Scottish football club based in the Parkhead area of Glasgow, which currently plays in the Scottish Premier League. The club was established in 1887, and played its first game in 1888. Celtic have won the Scottish League Championship on 42 occasions, most recently in the...


The Giants withdrew from the ASL in 1932.

Year-by-year

Year Division League Reg. Season Playoffs U.S. Open Cup
1923/24 1 ASL 6th No playoff ?
1924/25 1 ASL 8th No playoff Did not enter
1925/26 1 ASL 9th No playoff Quarterfinals
1926/27 1 ASL 5th No playoff First round
1927/28 1 ASL 6th (1st half); 7th (2nd half) Did not qualify Second round
1928/29 1 ASL left league after 8 games N/A N/A
1928-29
1928-29 Eastern Professional Soccer League
1928-29 Eastern Professional Soccer League. The season ran from Fall 1928 to Spring 1929 with a mid winter break. By the end of the first half, only the New York Giants and New York Hakoah had played all eighteen games. New York Celtic had dropped out after eight games and the rest of the teams...

1 ESL 2nd (1st half); 5th (2nd half) No playoff Semifinals
1929
1929 Eastern Professional Soccer League
1929 Eastern Professional Soccer League. The season began on September 2, 1929. By this time, the financial loses suffered by the American Soccer League, SNYSA and ESL had begun to mount. With the stock market crash a month later, the corporate sponsorship on which many of the teams depended...

1 ESL 3rd No playoff N/A
1929/30 1 ACL 8th No playoff
1930 1 ACL/ASL 5th (Spring); 8th (Fall) No playoff Second round
1931 1 ASL 1st (Spring); 2nd (Fall) Champion First round
Spring 1932 1 ASL ? No playoff Semifinals

Honors

New York Giants II
  • New York State Challenge Cup
    • Winners 1929: 1
  • Lewis Cup
    • Runners Up 1926: 1


New York Giants III
  • American Soccer League
    American Soccer League
    The American Soccer League has been a name used by three different professional soccer leagues in the United States. The first American Soccer League was established in 1921 by the merger of teams from the National Association Football League and the Southern New England Soccer League. For...

    • Winners 1931: 1

Notable players

New York Giants II
Davey Brown
Davey Brown
David “Davey” Brown is a former U.S. soccer forward. He spent most of his career playing for teams in New Jersey and New York, gaining his greatest fame with the New York Giants...

  Jim Brown
Jim Brown (soccer)
James "Jim" Brown was a Scottish American association football player who played for the United States men's national soccer team at the 1930 FIFA World Cup, scoring the only goal of the American team in their 6-1 semi-final loss to Argentina...

 Jimmy Douglas
Jimmy Douglas (American soccer)
Jimmy Douglas was a U.S. soccer goalkeeper who spent his career in the first American Soccer League . He earned nine caps with the U.S. national team, making his first appearance for the "Stars and Stripes" at the 1924 Summer Olympics...

  William Findlay
William Findlay (soccer)
William Findlay was a former U.S. soccer Wing Forward who earned four caps with the U.S. national team in 1924 and 1928. He also spent two seasons in the American Soccer League-Olympic teams:In 1924, Findlay was selected to the U.S. soccer team which competed in the 1924 Summer Olympics...

   George Moorhouse
George Moorhouse
George Moorhouse is, reputedly, the first Englishman to appear in a FIFA World Cup. He spent most of his playing career in the United States and earned seven caps with the U.S. national team. He was a member of the U.S. teams at the 1930 FIFA World Cup and 1934 FIFA World Cup...

   Shamus O'Brien
Shamus O'Brien
William Shamus O’Brien was a U.S.-Scottish soccer inside left. During his Hall of Fame career, O’Brien spent eight seasons in the first American Soccer League and another five in the second American Soccer League.-Youth:While born in Scotland, O’Brien’s family immigrated to the United States when...

 Philip Slone
Philip Slone
Philip "Phil" Slone was a U.S. soccer wing half. He spent a single season each in the short lived Eastern Soccer League and Atlantic Coast Conference, then ten years in the American Soccer League...

 Andy Straden
Andy Straden
Andy Straden was a U.S. soccer forward who was a member of the 1924 U.S. Olympic Team and played professionally in the first American Soccer League.-American Soccer League:...

Max Grünwald
Max Grünwald
Max Grünwald was an early twentieth century Austrian football inside forward who played professionally in Austria and the United States.-Club career:...

 Max Gold
Max Gold
Max Gold was an early twentieth century Austrian football right full back who played professionally in Austria and the United States. He also earned two caps with the Austrian national team in 1922....

 Moritz Häusler
Moritz Häusler
Moses “Moritz” or “Moschkatz” Häusler was an early twentieth century Austrian football inside forward who played professionally in Austria and the United States...

 Egon Pollack
Egon Pollack
Gustav "Egon" or "Erwin" Pollak was an Austrian footballer who played for the famed, SC Hakoah Wien . He was also the first ever manager of the Israeli national football team in their 3-1 loss to the United States just after gaining independence.-Club career:Pollak began his career with SC Hakoah...

 Erno Schwarz
Erno Schwarz
Ernö Schwarz or Schwarcz was a Hungarian American soccer player, coach and promoter who served as head coach of the United States men's national soccer team. He played professionally in Hungary, Czeckoslavakia, Austria and the United States, earning two caps, scoring two goals, with the Hungarian...

   Béla Guttmann
Béla Guttmann
Béla Guttmann was a Jewish Hungarian footballer and coach. He played as a midfielder for MTK Hungária FC, SC Hakoah Wien, Hungary and several clubs in the United States. However he is perhaps best remembered as a coach and manager of some the world’s leading football teams, including AC Milan, São...

 Alfred Schaffer
Alfréd Schaffer
Alfréd Schaffer was a Hungarian footballer who has the distinction of playing for a record number of professional clubs; he played for a total of 21 clubs in a 15 year career which lasted from 1910–1925....



New York Giants III
Davey Brown
Davey Brown
David “Davey” Brown is a former U.S. soccer forward. He spent most of his career playing for teams in New Jersey and New York, gaining his greatest fame with the New York Giants...

   Jimmy Gallagher
Jimmy Gallagher
Jimmy Gallagher was a Scottish American soccer right wing midfielder who spent eleven seasons in the American Soccer League. He was a member of the U.S. soccer teams at the 1930 FIFA World Cup and 1934 FIFA World Cup...

   Rudy Kuntner
Rudy Kuntner
Rudy Kuntner was a U.S.-Austrian soccer forward who was a member of the U.S. team at the 1928 Summer Olympics. He is also known as a long time stage manager for the Metropolitan Opera and is a member of the National Soccer Hall of Fame-Youth:Kuntner immigrated to the U.S. with his family when he...

   Bart McGhee
Bart McGhee
Bartholomew “Bertie” or “Bart” McGhee was an American soccer forward who typically played left wing forward. He played for the United States men's national soccer team at the 1930 FIFA World Cup, and scored the second goal in World Cup history against Belgium. He was inducted into the U.S...

 Bert Patenaude
Bert Patenaude
Bertrand "Bert" Arthur Patenaude was an American soccer player. Although earlier disputed, he is now officially credited by FIFA as the scorer of the first hat-trick in World Cup history. He is a member of the United States Soccer Hall of Fame.-Club career:...



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