Marvin, Welch & Farrar
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Marvin, Welch & Farrar (aka MWF) were a 1970s British
United Kingdom
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 and Australian popular music group formed by two members of The Shadows
The Shadows
The Shadows are a British pop group with a total of 69 UK hit-charted singles: 35 as 'The Shadows' and 34 as 'Cliff Richard and the Shadows', from the 1950s to the 2000s. Cliff Richard in casual conversation with the British rock press frequently refers to the Shadows by their nickname: 'The Shads'...

 as a change of direction manoeuvre by The Shadows during 1970-73 . The distinction was that while The Shadows were famous for their instrumental work, Marvin Welch & Farrar were a (trio) vocal harmony group. They have been favorably compared to USA folk close harmony group Crosby Stills Nash and Young (aka CSNY) or The Hollies
The Hollies
The Hollies are an English pop and rock group, formed in Manchester in the early 1960s, though most of the band members are from throughout East Lancashire. Known for their distinctive vocal harmony style, they became one of the leading British groups of the 1960s and 1970s...

.

Their second album Second Opinion
Second opinion
A second opinion is a consultation with an additional physician for an alternative point of view.Second opinion may also refer to:* Second Opinion , an American medical program...

 produced by Peter Vince, in a private poll during the 1970s by EMI record's Abbey Road's sound engineers, was voted as one of the best ever sounding albums recorded at these studios.

History

The group comprised Hank Marvin
Hank Marvin
Hank Brian Marvin is an English guitarist, best known as the lead guitarist for The Shadows. The group, which primarily performed instrumentals, was formed as a backing band for vocalist Cliff Richard...

 (b: 28 October 1941), on vocals and lead guitar
Lead guitar
Lead guitar is a guitar part which plays melody lines, instrumental fill passages, guitar solos, and occasionally, some riffs within a song structure...

, Bruce Welch
Bruce Welch
Bruce Welch OBE, is an English guitarist, songwriter, producer and singer, best known as a member of The Shadows.-Biography:...

 (b: 2 November 1941) on vocals and rhythm guitar
Rhythm guitar
Rhythm guitar is a technique and rôle that performs a combination of two functions: to provide all or part of the rhythmic pulse in conjunction with singers or other instruments; and to provide all or part of the harmony, ie. the chords, where a chord is a group of notes played together...

, and John Farrar
John Farrar
John Farrar is a music producer, songwriter, music arranger, singer and guitarist who is best known for his work with Olivia Newton-John with whom he wrote and produced many hit songs....

 (b: 8 November 1946) on vocals and guitar
Guitar
The guitar is a plucked string instrument, usually played with fingers or a pick. The guitar consists of a body with a rigid neck to which the strings, generally six in number, are attached. Guitars are traditionally constructed of various woods and strung with animal gut or, more recently, with...

 (both lead and rhythm). Reports were appearing in the UK music press in late summer 1970 that Hank Marvin and Bruce Welch were forming a new group.

Marvin: "I thought at the time that, as the Shadows weren't working regularly, it would be nice to do something new - singing rather than instrumental, though with instrumentals as well, of course. I was talking to Bruce about it and I thought about forming a five-piece. He wasn't keen on a big group so we shelved the idea and started writing songs together. He suggested the two of us should record the songs together. I suggested adding one more person - I wanted the extra strength of a third voice and the scope it would offer'.[1]

The third member of the new group was an unknown on the British 'pop' music scene. John Farrar
John Farrar
John Farrar is a music producer, songwriter, music arranger, singer and guitarist who is best known for his work with Olivia Newton-John with whom he wrote and produced many hit songs....

 was a member of The Strangers, who had once shared a bill with The Shadows
The Shadows
The Shadows are a British pop group with a total of 69 UK hit-charted singles: 35 as 'The Shadows' and 34 as 'Cliff Richard and the Shadows', from the 1950s to the 2000s. Cliff Richard in casual conversation with the British rock press frequently refers to the Shadows by their nickname: 'The Shads'...

. Bruce Welch had watched the Australian group from the wings of the theater and was impressed by the young singer-guitarist. When Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John AO, OBE is a singer and actress. She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles and 14 of her albums have been certified gold by the RIAA...

 reminded Bruce and Hank about John - who was by then married to Pat Carroll
Pat Carroll (singer)
Pat Carroll is an Australian singer from the 1960s.Carroll began her entertainment career at age eight when she started taking singing and dancing lessons. Appearances on children's TV shows followed by the time she was eleven years old...

, Olivia's ex-singing partner - the duo invited him to send over some tapes, and then to join them.

Farrar:"... Bruce had tried to phone me earlier and had left a message at my mother's house. I had been out working, and had gone home with my wife and we were both fast asleep around 1.30 am when the 'phone rang. When I picked up the 'phone and Bruce told me what he was planning, I couldn't believe it. Pat wanted me to drop everything and fly to London on the next plane, but I was desperately planning to be cool... Pat and I didn't go back to bed until the following morning. We spent the whole night smoking cigarettes, drinking cups of coffee and talking... I was trying so hard to be cool, but if the truth be known I wanted to get on the next plane, too"[2]

The Strangers had been formed in 1961. When founder member Laurie Arthur decided to leave the band in early 1964, he was replaced by the 18-year-old John Farrar
John Farrar
John Farrar is a music producer, songwriter, music arranger, singer and guitarist who is best known for his work with Olivia Newton-John with whom he wrote and produced many hit songs....

. In 1968 they were support act for a Shadows appearance at the Menzies Hotel. The Strangers visited Vietnam in 1970 to play for Australian and U. S. troops, and Farrar spent some time in the United States studying recording techniques in West Coast studios. Then came the invitation to join Hank Marvin and Bruce Welch in London. Three months after the phone call from Bruce, John and Pat were in London and Marvin, Welch and Farrar had begun rehearsing.

'Originally, we planned just to record. But the enormity of John's move across the world and the good reception our album received changed that'. [3]

A 13-week Cliff Richard
Cliff Richard
Sir Cliff Richard, OBE is a British pop singer, musician, performer, actor, and philanthropist who has sold over an estimated 250 million records worldwide....

 BBC tv series began in January 1971, and Marvin, Welch and Farrar appeared in five of the shows. It was also announced that the new group would be participating in Cliff Richard's European tour, scheduled for the spring. They would be billed as 'The Shadows - featuring Marvin, Welch and Farrar'. This was apparently for the benefit of audiences on the continent, who might be less familiar with the new vocal group.

During 1971 and 1972 Marvin Welch & Farrar performed live sessions at the BBC for radio1 broadcasting on the Dave Lee Travis Show.

The Brian Bennett Orchestra would be accompanying Cliff's set and both Brian and Shadows bassist John Rostill
John Rostill
John Henry Rostill was an English bassist and composer, recruited by The Shadows to replace Brian Locking.-Biography:...

 were to play in the Shadows/Marvin, Welch and Farrar set. In fact session bassist Dave Richmond
Dave Richmond
David 'Dave' Richmond , is a professional bass player, best known as a founder member of the 1960s pop group Manfred Mann, playing with the band in 1963. After leaving the band in 1963, Richmond became a session player, working with, amongst others, Elton John, Bread, and Hank Marvin.-External...

 - who played on the Marvin, Welch and Farrar debut album - replaced Rostill for the tour. The Marvin, Welch and Farrar element in the show was confined to three numbers out of ten.

Although the two ex-Shadows were anxious to emphasise their commitment to the new venture, the public were not so sure. Despite an almost total lack of concert and record appearances, the Shadows were voted Top Instrumental Group in the 1971 New Musical Express poll. Live appearances by the new trio still brought demands from the audience for old Shadows numbers.

Marvin: "... we lost out both ways. We lost out on the old Shadows, and we lost out by not getting through to the people we thought we'd get through to. They just wouldn't accept us."[4]
As musicians and songwriters, the group were well respected.

Cliff: "The music was good. Excellent in fact. The engineers and EMI who produced all the Beatles things voted 'Second Opinion' the best album to come out of the company".[5]

'Second Opinion", the trio's second LP, was released in the U. S. on the Sire label, which later released albums by artists such as the Ramones. Marvin, Welch and Farrar records, although well received, did not set the charts alight. The group remained unconcerned, working in the studios or on tour. At other times, they were individually or collectively writing songs, some of which were recorded by Cliff Richard
Cliff Richard
Sir Cliff Richard, OBE is a British pop singer, musician, performer, actor, and philanthropist who has sold over an estimated 250 million records worldwide....

 and Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John AO, OBE is a singer and actress. She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles and 14 of her albums have been certified gold by the RIAA...

 as well as by the trio. John and Bruce were arranging and producing Olivia's recordings, until she broke off her engagement to the latter, when Farrar alone became responsible for her recording career.

By 1972, however, Bruce Welch had dropped out of the group. The group had perhaps not lived up to his expectations, and some sections of the music press were critical of the Cliff- Shadows- Olivia stable generally. Adverse criticisms, though, did not seem to affect the box-office, and the autumn 1971 Palladium season had been a great success. When Cliff Richard toured in 1972, it was Marvin and Farrar, with the assistance of Brian Bennett (musician) (Cliff's musical director again) who joined him. Also involved were ex-Shadow Alan Hawkshaw
Alan Hawkshaw
Alan Hawkshaw is a British composer and performer, particularly of themes for movies and television programmes...

, Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John AO, OBE is a singer and actress. She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles and 14 of her albums have been certified gold by the RIAA...

 and Pat Carroll
Pat Carroll (singer)
Pat Carroll is an Australian singer from the 1960s.Carroll began her entertainment career at age eight when she started taking singing and dancing lessons. Appearances on children's TV shows followed by the time she was eleven years old...

. The Marvin/Farrar set mixed Shadows favourites with new material.

Marvin and Farrar recorded one LP as a duo with one track also featuring Bruce Welch, which was presumably originally recorded for a planned Marvin, Welch and Farrar LP. The album track "Music makes my day" features Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John
Olivia Newton-John AO, OBE is a singer and actress. She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles and 14 of her albums have been certified gold by the RIAA...

 playing a recorder as an accompanment. Hank Marvin, on reflection, was less than enthusiastic about that joint album. "it lacked something in direction. It was a bit like Frankenstein meets the Beach Boys".[6]

The album 'Hank Marvin and John Farrar' was also released in the United States, on the Capitol label. Cliff Richard's second appearance in the Eurovision Song Contest was in 1973, and John Farrar was a member of Cliffs backing group. When Cliff toured Australia in the same year, John was musical director for both the gospel and secular segments of the tour. Backing Cliff was John's former group, the Strangers, and the vocal accompaniment was provided by the Pat Carroll Singers.

MW&F gigs

Stage appearances by Marvin, Welch and Farrar, and latterly by Marvin and Farrar always resulted in demands for 'old' Shadows numbers e.g. FBI, Apache, etc. So in 1973, Hank and Bruce bowed to the inevitable and announced that the Shadows would come together once or twice a year for recording purposes only. Hank and John would still be working together, and would join with Bruce and Brian as the Shadows. The first LP by the new line-up was due for release in late 1973, and would be entitled 'Rocking with curly leads'.

Almost all the tracks recorded by the group were written by its members, with occasional contributions from co-writers.

Discography (MW&F)

albums
  • Live at the BBC - Unissued - BBCcopywrite - 1970-73. Various sessions.
  • Marvin Welch & Farrar - LP/CD - Regal Zonophone/see4Miles/BGO - 1970.
  • Second Opinion - LP/CD - Regal Zonophone/See4Miles/BGO - 1971.
  • Second Opinion - QuadraphonicLP - Regal Zonophone - 1971.
  • Step from the Shadows - LP/CD - See4Miles - 199?.
  • Very best of MW&F - LP/CD - EMI - 199?.
  • Marvin Welch & Farrar/Second Opinion(Remastered) - CD - BGO - 2006
  • Cliff Richard live in Japan 1972 - 2LP/8CDBoxSet - ToshibaEMI/EMI - 1971
  • Live in Japan 1972 - album by Cliff Richard, CD - EMI (in 2009) features M&F track "Backscratcher".
  • Live at the Paris Olympia 1975 - album by the Shadows, CD - EMI (in 1992) features 10 songs from their MW&F era.
  • Live at the Paris Olympia 1975/Live in Japan 1969 - dble album by the Shadows, 2CD - Magic Records of France (in 2006) features 10 songs from their MW&F era.


singles
  • Lady of the morning/Tiny Robin - 7" - Regal Zonophone - 1972..
  • Marmaduke/strike a light - 7" - Regal Zonophone - 1971.
  • Mr Sun/Faithful - 7" - Regal Zonophone - 1971.
  • Brownie Kentuckie/... - 7" - (NewZealand) Regal Zonophone - 1971.

Discography (M&F)

albums
  • Hank Marvin and John Farrar - LP/CD - EMI/See4Miles/BGO - 1973.
  • Hank Marvin and John Farrar(remastered) - CD - BGO.


singles
  • Music Makes My Day/Skin Deep - 7" - EMI - EMI2044.
  • Small & Lonely Light/Galadriel - 7" - EMI - EMI2335.

Guitars used by MW&F/M&F

  • Marvin.(acoustic): Gibson(6+12 sts); Martin D-45, D-28, Yamaha.
  • Marvin.(electric): Burns Marvin; Fender Strat'- Sunburst & Black.
  • Welch.(acoustic): Martin D-28.
  • Farrar.(acoustic): Martin D-28.
  • Farrar.(electric): Fender Telecaster thin-line w/3 bigsby pedals.

Studio album(s)

MW&F "MW&F"/"2nd Opinion"
  • 1970-72: Marvin(g)+Welch(g)+Farrar(g) && Alan Hawkshaw(kb)+Clem Cattini(d)+Dave Richmond(b)


MW&F BBC radio1 sessions(unissued)
  • 1970-72: Marvin(g)+Welch(g)+Farrar(g) && Brian Bennett(d)+Geoff Atherton(b)


M&F "HM&JF"
  • 1973: Marvin(g)+Farrar(g) && Alan Tarney(b)+Trevor Spencer(d)+OliviaNJ(recorder)+BBennett(perc)

Live concerts

MW&F (w/Gene Pitney or w/Cliff Richard)
  • 1970-71: Marvin(g)+Welch(g)+Farrar(g)

M&F (Japan Tour - Cliff Richard/Olivia Newton-john/Pat Carroll)
  • 1972: Marvin(g)+Farrar(g) && Rostill(b)+Hawkshaw(kb)+Bennett(d)

M&F (Ronnie Scott's jazz club)
  • 1973: Marvin(g)+Farrar(g) && Dave Olney(b)+Andrew Steele(d)

M&F (Batleys Night club)
  • 1973: Marvin(g)+Farrar(g) && Geoff Atherton(b)+Andrew Steele(d)

Session musicians

  • Alan Hawkshaw
    Alan Hawkshaw
    Alan Hawkshaw is a British composer and performer, particularly of themes for movies and television programmes...

     - Keyboards - (1st/2nd albums)
  • Duffy Power
    Duffy Power
    Duffy Power is an English blues and rock and roll singer, who achieved some success in the 1960s and has performed and recorded intermittently since then.-Career:...

     - Harmonica - (1st/2nd albums)
  • Dave Richmond
    Dave Richmond
    David 'Dave' Richmond , is a professional bass player, best known as a founder member of the 1960s pop group Manfred Mann, playing with the band in 1963. After leaving the band in 1963, Richmond became a session player, working with, amongst others, Elton John, Bread, and Hank Marvin.-External...

     - Bass - (1st/2nd albums)
  • Clem Cattini
    Clem Cattini
    Clem Cattini , is an English rock and roll drummer who was a member of The Tornados before becoming well known for his work as a session musician...

     - Drums - (1st/2nd albums)
  • Johnny Van Derek - Fiddle - (1st/2nd albums)
  • Dave Ackley - Live
  • Geoff Atherton - live
  • Andrew Steel - live
  • Alan Tarney
    Alan Tarney
    Alan Tarney is an English songwriter, record producer and bass guitarist. He was born in Workington, Cumberland, England, but spent his teenage years in Adelaide, Australia where he met his songwriting and musical partner Trevor Spencer.- Career :Tarney was part of the huge influx of British...

     - M&F album
  • Trevor Spencer
    Trevor Spencer
    Trevor Spencer is an Australian songwriter, record producer and drummer. He was born in Adelaide, Australia Trevor studied drums and percussion from the age of 10...

     - M&F album
  • Olivia Newton-John
    Olivia Newton-John
    Olivia Newton-John AO, OBE is a singer and actress. She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles and 14 of her albums have been certified gold by the RIAA...

     - M&F album
  • Brian Bennett - M&F album

See also

  • Cliff Richard
    Cliff Richard
    Sir Cliff Richard, OBE is a British pop singer, musician, performer, actor, and philanthropist who has sold over an estimated 250 million records worldwide....

  • Olivia Newton-John
    Olivia Newton-John
    Olivia Newton-John AO, OBE is a singer and actress. She is a four-time Grammy award winner who has amassed five No. 1 and ten other Top Ten Billboard Hot 100 singles and two No. 1 Billboard 200 solo albums. Eleven of her singles and 14 of her albums have been certified gold by the RIAA...

  • The Shadows
    The Shadows
    The Shadows are a British pop group with a total of 69 UK hit-charted singles: 35 as 'The Shadows' and 34 as 'Cliff Richard and the Shadows', from the 1950s to the 2000s. Cliff Richard in casual conversation with the British rock press frequently refers to the Shadows by their nickname: 'The Shads'...

  • Hank Marvin
    Hank Marvin
    Hank Brian Marvin is an English guitarist, best known as the lead guitarist for The Shadows. The group, which primarily performed instrumentals, was formed as a backing band for vocalist Cliff Richard...

  • Bruce Welch
    Bruce Welch
    Bruce Welch OBE, is an English guitarist, songwriter, producer and singer, best known as a member of The Shadows.-Biography:...

  • John Farrar
    John Farrar
    John Farrar is a music producer, songwriter, music arranger, singer and guitarist who is best known for his work with Olivia Newton-John with whom he wrote and produced many hit songs....

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