Ljubljana derby
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The Ljubljana derby was a major football rivalry between NK Olimpija Ljubljana
and NK Železničar Ljubljana.
from 1991 onwards when the matches were more frequently played. The main reason being the fact that both clubs were part of the Yugoslav football system and, during the period from 1945 until 1991 (establishment of Slovenian league, 1.SNL), played only a total of eight seasons in the same league. The rivalry developed in late 1950s, when two clubs for three consecutive seasons from 1955 until 1958, played in the Yugoslav Second League
together. In 1991, after the declared independence of Slovenia, both clubs were the founding members of the Slovenian first league, 1.SNL, and played there up until the end of 2004-05 season and the dissolvement of both clubs.
The two teams represented the two social classes in Ljubljana, and both had the largest fanbases in the city. Traditionally Olimpija and its fans were considered as the representatives of the upper class
. Železničar's Šiška district, on the other hand, was one of the most industrialized parts of Ljubljana and the majority of its fans were the representatives of the working class
, many of them from other yugoslav republics. Rivalry was therefore usually based mainly on political and social antagonism. However, this kind of division was much more apparent in the past, as the class differences between the fanbases have faded out and the social gap that once separated the two sides has closed over the years. Until the dissolvement in 2004, both clubs were the most successful teams in Ljubljana club football. From 1945 until 1991 Ljubljana and Olimpija had won a combined total of nine Slovenian champinoships (Ljubljana 5, Olimpija 4).
Statistically, Olimpija was the more successful club in the period from 1946 to 2005.
• Total: Olimpija 11 wins (69%), 3 draw (19%), Ljubljana 2 win (13%).
Note: In 2002-03, 1.SNL had a three round robin and the matches of the final third of the season were determined based on the league position after the first two thirds of the season.
• Total: Olimpija 9 wins (60%), 4 draw (27%), Ljubljana 2 wins (13%).
• Series won: Olimpija 1 (50%), Ljubljana 1 (50%).
• Total: Olimpija 14 times higher (93%), Ljubljana 1 time higher (7%).
. Both were supported by most of the fans of the previous clubs, including their fan groups, the Green Dragons
and Špediterji Šiška. Therefore many have seen the matches between the new clubs as the continuation of the rivalry and referred to it by the same name. The first match between new NK Bežigrad and FC Ljubljana took place on 26 August 2005 on a fifth level league match that was won by Bežigrad, 3-1. Later NK Bežigrad renamed to Olimpija Ljubljana, while FC Ljubljana finally dissolved in 2011.
, while NK Interblock lacked supporters and tradition to be considered as a serious rival, despite some success against Olimpija in the last years. NK Ljubljana on the other hand had a minor rivalry with nearby NK Ilirija, but the latter disappeared in the anonymity after the introduction of Slovenian league in 1991.
NK Olimpija Ljubljana (1911)
NK Olimpija Ljubljana was a Slovenian association football club based in Ljubljana. The club had traced its origin back to 1911 when it was originally founded as SK Ilirija. It had gone through a series of mergers in the first half of the 20th century before adopting the name Olimpija in 1962...
and NK Železničar Ljubljana.
History and rivalry culture
The rivalry traced its roots back in the 1940s and the time of SFR Yugoslavia when the first matches between the two clubs were played. Although the first match was played in 1946 it was not until the independence of SloveniaSlovenia
Slovenia , officially the Republic of Slovenia , is a country in Central and Southeastern Europe touching the Alps and bordering the Mediterranean. Slovenia borders Italy to the west, Croatia to the south and east, Hungary to the northeast, and Austria to the north, and also has a small portion of...
from 1991 onwards when the matches were more frequently played. The main reason being the fact that both clubs were part of the Yugoslav football system and, during the period from 1945 until 1991 (establishment of Slovenian league, 1.SNL), played only a total of eight seasons in the same league. The rivalry developed in late 1950s, when two clubs for three consecutive seasons from 1955 until 1958, played in the Yugoslav Second League
Yugoslav Second League
Yugoslav Second League was the second tier football league of SFR Yugoslavia. The top clubs were promoted to the top tier, the Yugoslav First League....
together. In 1991, after the declared independence of Slovenia, both clubs were the founding members of the Slovenian first league, 1.SNL, and played there up until the end of 2004-05 season and the dissolvement of both clubs.
The two teams represented the two social classes in Ljubljana, and both had the largest fanbases in the city. Traditionally Olimpija and its fans were considered as the representatives of the upper class
Upper class
In social science, the "upper class" is the group of people at the top of a social hierarchy. Members of an upper class may have great power over the allocation of resources and governmental policy in their area.- Historical meaning :...
. Železničar's Šiška district, on the other hand, was one of the most industrialized parts of Ljubljana and the majority of its fans were the representatives of the working class
Working class
Working class is a term used in the social sciences and in ordinary conversation to describe those employed in lower tier jobs , often extending to those in unemployment or otherwise possessing below-average incomes...
, many of them from other yugoslav republics. Rivalry was therefore usually based mainly on political and social antagonism. However, this kind of division was much more apparent in the past, as the class differences between the fanbases have faded out and the social gap that once separated the two sides has closed over the years. Until the dissolvement in 2004, both clubs were the most successful teams in Ljubljana club football. From 1945 until 1991 Ljubljana and Olimpija had won a combined total of nine Slovenian champinoships (Ljubljana 5, Olimpija 4).
Statistically, Olimpija was the more successful club in the period from 1946 to 2005.
Official statistics
- Official statistics of honours won by NK Železničar / NK Ljubljana and NK Odred / NK Olimpija, as treated by the Fooball Association of Slovenia (NZS) and the Association of Slovenian First League, 1.SNL (Združenje prvoligašev).
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| Competition | Ljubljana NK Ljubljana NK Ljubljana was a Slovenian association football club based in the capital city of Ljubljana. The club was established in 1909 and dissolved in 2005. A successor club which claimed rights to Ljubljana's honours and records was established in 2005 bearing the name FC Ljubljana... |
Olimpija NK Olimpija Ljubljana (1911) NK Olimpija Ljubljana was a Slovenian association football club based in Ljubljana. The club had traced its origin back to 1911 when it was originally founded as SK Ilirija. It had gone through a series of mergers in the first half of the 20th century before adopting the name Olimpija in 1962... |
| Rep. League | 5 | 4 |
| 1.SNL | 0 | 4 |
| Cup Slovenian Cup The Slovenian Football Cup , is the top knockout tournament of Slovenian football and the second most important football competition in Slovenia after the Slovenian PrvaLiga championship... |
0 | 4 |
| Supercup Slovenian Supercup The Slovenian Supercup is an annually contested football match between the football club that has won the Slovenian PrvaLiga and the club that has won the Slovenian Cup. Until 2008 the match was held only occasionally, however, in recent years it has become an annual event usually held in July and... |
0 | 1 |
| Total | 5 | 13 |
Yugoslav football leagues
- The head-to-head matches shows the results of NK Železničar / NK Ljubljana and NK Odred / NK Olimpija, when they played in the same league.
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| 1946-47 Slovenian Republic League 1946-47 The 1946-47 season was the 24th season of the Slovenian Republic League and the second as part of the country of Yugoslavia. The league champions were Enotnost Ljubljana.-Final Table:... |
8 | 03–11–1946 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 1–0 | 16 | 13–04–1947 | Bežigrad | 2–0 |
| 1952 Slovenian Republic League 1951-52 The 1951-52 season was the 29th season of the Slovenian Republic League and the 7th as part of the FR Yugoslavia. First four clubs secured they place in second level inter-republic Slovene-Croatian League... |
13 | 25–05–1952 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 0–5 | 4 | 06–04–1952 | Bežigrad | 5–0 |
| 1952-53 | 12 | 26–04–1953 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 1–2 | 4 | 23–10–1952 | Bežigrad | 4–0 |
| 1955-56 | 10 | 20–11–1955 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 2–2 | 21 | 27–05–1956 | Bežigrad | 3–2 |
| 1956-57 | 11 | 18–11–1956 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 2–0 | 22 | 02–06–1957 | Bežigrad | 6–0 |
| 1957-58 | 25 | 11–05–1958 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 0–0 | 12 | 01–12–1957 | Bežigrad | 2–0 |
| 1961-62 Slovenian Republic League 1961-62 -Final Table:-External links:* '* '... |
19 | 20–05–1962 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 1–4 | 8 | 29–10–1961 | Bežigrad | 4–0 |
| 1986-87 Slovenian Republic League 1986-87 -Final Table:-Promoted:-External links:* '* '... |
21 | 27–05–1987 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 0–0 | 8 | 19–10–1986 | Bežigrad | 5–0 |
• Total: Olimpija 11 wins (69%), 3 draw (19%), Ljubljana 2 win (13%).
Slovenian first league
- The head-to-head matches shows the results of NK Ljubljana and NK Olimpija, when they played in the 1.SNL.
Ljubljana – Olimpija Olimpija – Ljubljana Season R. Date Venue Atten. Score R. Date Venue Atten. Score 1991-92 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1991-92The Slovenian PrvaLiga 1991-92 was the first season of Slovenian top division football. The season started on August 18, 1991 and ended on June 21, 1992 with each team playing a total of 40 matches.-Qualified clubs:-Play-offs:-Final table:...33 03–05–1992 ŽŠD Ljubljana 2,500 0–1 12 13–10–1991 Bežigrad 500 3–0 1992-93 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1992-93The Slovenian PrvaLiga 1992-93 was the second season of Slovenian top division football. The season started on August 15, 1992 and ended on June 9, 1993 with each team playing a total of 34 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '...20 21–03–1993 ŽŠD Ljubljana 1,000 1–0 3 29–08–1992 Bežigrad 400 5–1 1993-94 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1993-94-Season 1993-1994:The season started on August 22, 1993 and ended on June 12, 1994.*Each team plays a total of 30 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...24 01–05–1994 ŽŠD Ljubljana 700 1–1 9 17–10–1993 Bežigrad 400 5–0 1994-95 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1994-95-Season 1994-1995:The season started on August 7, 1994 and ended on May 31, 1995.*Each team plays a total of 30 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...26 07–05–1995 ŽŠD Ljubljana 1,000 1–1 11 23–10–1994 Bežigrad 500 1–2 2002-03 4 11–08–2002 ŽŠD Ljubljana 2,000 0–1 15 08–11–2002 Bežigrad 2,500 2–2 23 04–04–2003 Bežigrad 600 5–0 2003-04 Slovenian PrvaLiga 2003-04-Season 2003-2004:The season started on July 20, 2003 and ended on May 30, 2004.*Each team plays a total of 32 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...21 28–03–2004 ŽŠD Ljubljana 2,700 0–1 10 28–09–2003 Bežigrad 500 0–0 2004-05 Slovenian PrvaLiga 2004-05-Season 2004-2005:The season started on August 1, 2004 and ended on May 29, 2005.*Each team plays a total of 32 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...22 02–04–2005 ŽŠD Ljubljana 700 0–1 11 15–10–2004 Zagorje (N) 400 4–1
Note: In 2002-03, 1.SNL had a three round robin and the matches of the final third of the season were determined based on the league position after the first two thirds of the season.
• Total: Olimpija 9 wins (60%), 4 draw (27%), Ljubljana 2 wins (13%).
Slovenian cup
- The head-to-head matches shows the results of NK Ljubljana and NK Olimpija, when they played in the Slovenian cup.
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| 1992-93 | Semifinal | 05–05–1993 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 1,200 | LJ – OL | 0–1 | OL |
| 2002-03 | Round of 16 | 17–09–2003 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 1,000 | LJ – OL | 3–1 | LJ |
• Series won: Olimpija 1 (50%), Ljubljana 1 (50%).
Statistics
- The head-to-head statistics shows the results of NK Ljubljana and NK Olimpija, when they played against each other in the Slovenian League or Cup.
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| At Ljubljana home | 2 | 3 | 3 |
| At Olimpija home | 0 | 0 | 8 |
| Total | 2 | 3 | 11 |
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| At Ljubljana home | 1 | 2 | 4 |
| At Olimpija home | 1 | 2 | 4 |
| Neutral field | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Total | 2 | 4 | 9 |
| Slovenian Cup Slovenian Cup The Slovenian Football Cup , is the top knockout tournament of Slovenian football and the second most important football competition in Slovenia after the Slovenian PrvaLiga championship... |
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| At Ljubljana home | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| At Olimpija home | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Total | 1 | 0 | 1 |
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| 5 | 7 | 21 | |
Ranking
- The head-to-head ranking table shows the results of NK Železničar / NK Ljubljana and NK Odred / NK Olimpija, when they played in the same league.
P. 46-47 Slovenian Republic League 1946-47The 1946-47 season was the 24th season of the Slovenian Republic League and the second as part of the country of Yugoslavia. The league champions were Enotnost Ljubljana.-Final Table:...51-52 Slovenian Republic League 1951-52The 1951-52 season was the 29th season of the Slovenian Republic League and the 7th as part of the FR Yugoslavia. First four clubs secured they place in second level inter-republic Slovene-Croatian League...52-53 55-56 56-57 57-58 61-62 Slovenian Republic League 1961-62-Final Table:-External links:* '* '...86-87 Slovenian Republic League 1986-87-Final Table:-Promoted:-External links:* '* '...91-92 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1991-92The Slovenian PrvaLiga 1991-92 was the first season of Slovenian top division football. The season started on August 18, 1991 and ended on June 21, 1992 with each team playing a total of 40 matches.-Qualified clubs:-Play-offs:-Final table:...92-93 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1992-93The Slovenian PrvaLiga 1992-93 was the second season of Slovenian top division football. The season started on August 15, 1992 and ended on June 9, 1993 with each team playing a total of 34 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '...93-94 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1993-94-Season 1993-1994:The season started on August 22, 1993 and ended on June 12, 1994.*Each team plays a total of 30 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...94-95 Slovenian PrvaLiga 1994-95-Season 1994-1995:The season started on August 7, 1994 and ended on May 31, 1995.*Each team plays a total of 30 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...02-03 Slovenian PrvaLiga 2002-03-Season 2002-2003:The season started on July 14, 2002 and ended on June 1, 2003.*Each team plays a total of 31 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...03-04 Slovenian PrvaLiga 2003-04-Season 2003-2004:The season started on July 20, 2003 and ended on May 30, 2004.*Each team plays a total of 32 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...04-05 Slovenian PrvaLiga 2004-05-Season 2004-2005:The season started on August 1, 2004 and ended on May 29, 2005.*Each team plays a total of 32 matches.-Final table:-External links:* '* '...1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 11 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
• Total: Olimpija 14 times higher (93%), Ljubljana 1 time higher (7%).
Post 2005 era
In 2005 new clubs were established, NK Bežigrad and FC LjubljanaFC Ljubljana
FC Ljubljana was a Slovenian football club, based in the capital city of Ljubljana. It was founded on 23 June, 2005. The club regarded themselves as the spiritual continuation of NK Ljubljana, who went bankrupt and was abolished in 2005. However, legally FC Ljubljana was a distinct and separate...
. Both were supported by most of the fans of the previous clubs, including their fan groups, the Green Dragons
Green Dragons
Green Dragons, also known as simply "Dragonsi", are supporters of the Olimpija branch of sport clubs in Ljubljana and considered the largest of such Slovenian groups. The most prominent roles amongst these belong to NK Olimpija and KK Union Olimpija...
and Špediterji Šiška. Therefore many have seen the matches between the new clubs as the continuation of the rivalry and referred to it by the same name. The first match between new NK Bežigrad and FC Ljubljana took place on 26 August 2005 on a fifth level league match that was won by Bežigrad, 3-1. Later NK Bežigrad renamed to Olimpija Ljubljana, while FC Ljubljana finally dissolved in 2011.
- The head-to-head matches shows the results of FC Ljubljana and NK Bežigrad since 2005.
League
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| 2005-06 | 10 | 01–04–2006 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | 0–2 | 1 | 26–08–2005 | Bežigrad | 3–1 |
Cup
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| 2005-06 | 1st Round | 07–09–2005 | ŽŠD Ljubljana | LJ – OL | 0–0 (aet Overtime (sports) Overtime or extra time is an additional period of play specified under the rules of a sport to bring a game to a decision and avoid declaring the match a tie or draw. In most sports, this extra period is only played if the game is required to have a clear winner, as in single-elimination... ); 2–1 (pen) |
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Other matches in Ljubljana football
In the past, there were also other matches played between various teams from Ljubljana, but the clubs involved never developed a serious rivalry. NK Slovan, club known for a rivalry with Olimpija in the basketball, has rarely played and never won against NK Olimpija or NK Ljubljana in a football league match. Same goes for NK SvobodaNK Svoboda
NK Svoboda is a Slovenian football club from Ljubljana.- History :The club was formed in 1952 and was known as one of the best Slovenian clubs during the time of SFR Yugoslavia. The most successful years came in the seventies, when the club was playing in Yugoslav Second Division under the...
, while NK Interblock lacked supporters and tradition to be considered as a serious rival, despite some success against Olimpija in the last years. NK Ljubljana on the other hand had a minor rivalry with nearby NK Ilirija, but the latter disappeared in the anonymity after the introduction of Slovenian league in 1991.
Statistics
- The head-to-head statistics shows the results of NK Olimpija and NK Ljubljana, when they played against other football clubs from Ljubljana in the Slovenian Leagues (I, II or III) or Cup.
| Olimpija - Slovan | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
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| Total | 7 | 3 | 0 |
| Olimpija - Interblock | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
| Total | 3 | 0 | 2 |
| Olimpija - Svoboda | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
| Total | 5 | 1 | 0 |
| Olimpija - Vevče | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
| Total | 6 | 2 | 0 |
| Ljubljana - Slovan | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
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| Total | 2 | 4 | 0 |
| Ljubljana - Interblock | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
| Total | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Ljubljana - Svoboda | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
| Total | 6 | 1 | 0 |
| Ljubljana - Vevče | Wins | Draws | Defeats |
| Total | 3 | 1 | 1 |