Hated in the Nation
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Hated in the Nation is a compilation album
, initially released exclusively on cassette format on ROIR
, by transgressive punk rock
musician GG Allin
. Consisting mainly of then-out-of-print recordings by Allin with his early-era backing groups The Jabbers
, The Scumfucs, and the Cedar Street Sluts, Hated in the Nation became Allin's first widespread international release. Since it is a compilation intended to both document Allin's early recording career up to that time and to attract new fans to his music, it is the only GG Allin title that has never gone out-of-print; according to his official website, it is also one of the most popular items in GG's discography.
had approached Mykel Board
, Maximum RockNRoll
columnist and owner of Siedboard World Enterprises, about the possibility of ROIR doing a GG Allin cassette, since Allin had already had friendly dealings with Board, stemming from Allin's contribution to a compilation album Board had compiled in 1981. Cooper wanted to do an all-live album with Allin, but at the time, Allin's appearances were already notorious for his stage antics which included attacking audience members, Audience members pulling GG offstage and beating him, defecating onstage, and throwing his feces at the audience. The decision was made to compile tracks from Allin's back catalog when the live show to be recorded only lasted 3 songs. Allin discussed using recordings from the collection he and Peter Yarmouth had assembled when they created Black & Blue Records. The original plan was to use new studio and live recordings that would be done in New York. Entrusted with supervising the project, Board contacted Allin and then arranged a recording session with Shimmy Disc
owner and producer Kramer
at the latter's Noise New York studio, and a live date at The Cat Club in New York City. A band was then assembled that included Kramer on bass, Steve Dasinger from Board's own band Artless on drums, and J Mascis
of Dinosaur Jr
on lead guitar. The backing band would later be collectively named on the sleeve note as "The New York Superscum".
According to Board's liner notes for Allin's posthumous studio album Brutality and Bloodshed for All
(1993), Allin arrived at the studio carrying a big bottle of Jim Beam
whiskey that was already about seven-eights empty, and in a rather visibly disheveled condition from not having bathed or cut his hair in quite some time. The recording session doubled as a rehearsal for the night's performance; at the beginning of one of the new recordings, Allin is heard giving an instruction to the band on how many times to play a particular song's introduction. The session didn't go completely without a hitch, however, as Allin reportedly broke one of the studio microphones by headbutting it and then, in Board's words, "tried to break the studio floor with his head."
After the recording session/rehearsal concluded, Allin, Board, and the band then went to the Cat Club for the evening's performance, which would also be recorded. A few hours before the show GG met up with Peter Yarmouth and his bodyguard Don Schlock as both came up to NYC for the show. They walked around the lower east side and visited with David Peel. Yarmouth was a big fan of Peel in the 70's and wanted to meet him. So they went to Peels apartment and it ended with Peel and GG arguing and both Allin and Schlock urinated on Peel's apartment door. Schlock then dared GG to defecate on stage and GG bought some Ex-Lax at a deli while Schlock ordered a tongue sandwich.Schlock while eating told GG he would pay him 20 bucks if he took a dump onstage. Yarmouth and Schlock along with GG then proceeded to the club with none of them knowing this show would be the one show that kicked GG's infamous career off. Before the group's set began, Allin reportedly told Board, "It should be a good show tonight - I just ate an entire box of Ex-Lax
." GG was running in place as he waited for the show to start to keep it in. Predictably, the show itself came to a halt when Allin began it by defecating onstage before the set began. GG was wearing a jockstrap and dog collar only. Sure enough, a couple of songs into the performance,GG began to toss the feces into the audience and he hit a guy in the head with the microphone stand. The club's owner ordered bouncers to bodily remove the vocalist from the club. GG then rubbed himself with the feces and most of the bouncers refused to toss him out so the set lasted a bit longer. As a result, The set was only 3 songs long and only those songs from the live performance, "Blood For You" ,"Ass Fuckin' Butt Lickin' Cunt Suckin' Masturbation" and one other, were usable enough for the album. The other cuts with the New York Superscum - new recordings of "Drink Fight And Fuck" and a "new" cut (apparently improvised) entitled "Ten Year Old Fuck" - were done during the recording/rehearsal session. This Cat Club show was reported in The Village Voice and it got a lot of mileage for GG as he was in the letters section of that publication for a month or more. The rest of the underground/punk music press started paying a lot more attention to GG (most of it trashing him not praising him). "I can not think of a show that had more impact on his career" Peter Yarmouth.
To further simulate a live performance, Board used stage monologues from a cassette recording of a 1985 performance Allin had done in Dallas, Texas
with a local pickup band called The Texas Nazis; the full recording would later be released by Black & Blue Records as Boozin' And Pranks other Black & Blue recordings Yarmouth agreed Allin could use on this release are also on this release. Messages from Allin's answering machine also appear on the album, as does a message left by Allin on Board's own machine. [Actually, all the messages were from MY answering machine. The other info is correct.-- Mykel Board]
In 1998, ROIR reissued Hated in the Nation on compact disc, adding a radio commercial for Always Was, Is And Always Shall Be and three other cuts from the same era covered on the original cassette.
Compilation album
A compilation album is an album featuring tracks from one or more performers, often culled from a variety of sources The tracks are usually collected according to a common characteristic, such as popularity, genre, source or subject matter...
, initially released exclusively on cassette format on ROIR
ROIR
ROIR , or Reach Out International Records, is a New York City-based record label founded in 1979 by Neil Cooper.ROIR was founded the same year that the Sony Walkman launched, and initially, the label exclusively distributed its releases in cassette format...
, by transgressive punk rock
Punk rock
Punk rock is a rock music genre that developed between 1974 and 1976 in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia. Rooted in garage rock and other forms of what is now known as protopunk music, punk rock bands eschewed perceived excesses of mainstream 1970s rock...
musician GG Allin
GG Allin
Kevin Michael "GG" Allin was an American punk rock singer-songwriter, who performed and recorded with many groups during his career. GG Allin is perhaps best remembered for his notorious live performances, which often featured transgressive acts, including coprophagia, self-mutilation, and...
. Consisting mainly of then-out-of-print recordings by Allin with his early-era backing groups The Jabbers
The Jabbers
The Jabbers are an American punk rock band. Once fronted by a young GG Allin at the beginning of his career in the late-'70s to mid-'80s, many of his most well known songs were recorded with this band, such as "Assface", "Don't Talk to Me" and "Bored to Death".Most notable, Allin's singing voice...
, The Scumfucs, and the Cedar Street Sluts, Hated in the Nation became Allin's first widespread international release. Since it is a compilation intended to both document Allin's early recording career up to that time and to attract new fans to his music, it is the only GG Allin title that has never gone out-of-print; according to his official website, it is also one of the most popular items in GG's discography.
Album history
The release came about as Allin's notoriety was growing in New York and New England. ROIR Records president Neil CooperNeil Cooper (ROIR)
Neil Cooper was the founder and head of independent US cassette and record label ROIR.-Life and work:Born in Philadelphia, Cooper attended Amherst College and graduated from Columbia Business School in 1954. Working as a booking agent for MCA Inc...
had approached Mykel Board
Mykel Board
Mykel Board is a regularly published journalist, especially well known for his articles in Maximumrocknroll....
, Maximum RockNRoll
Maximum RocknRoll
Maximum rocknroll is a widely distributed, monthly not-for-profit fanzine based in San Francisco, USA. It features interviews, columns, and reviews from international contributors...
columnist and owner of Siedboard World Enterprises, about the possibility of ROIR doing a GG Allin cassette, since Allin had already had friendly dealings with Board, stemming from Allin's contribution to a compilation album Board had compiled in 1981. Cooper wanted to do an all-live album with Allin, but at the time, Allin's appearances were already notorious for his stage antics which included attacking audience members, Audience members pulling GG offstage and beating him, defecating onstage, and throwing his feces at the audience. The decision was made to compile tracks from Allin's back catalog when the live show to be recorded only lasted 3 songs. Allin discussed using recordings from the collection he and Peter Yarmouth had assembled when they created Black & Blue Records. The original plan was to use new studio and live recordings that would be done in New York. Entrusted with supervising the project, Board contacted Allin and then arranged a recording session with Shimmy Disc
Shimmy Disc
Shimmy Disc was an influential New York City based record label founded in 1987 by Mark Kramer. Before it was sold to the Knitting Factory, it was responsible for providing a mass audience for acts including Bongwater, Daniel Johnston, Fly Ashtray, Galaxie 500, King Missile, Boredoms, Ruins, Ween,...
owner and producer Kramer
Mark Kramer
Mark Kramer , known professionally as Kramer, is a musician, composer, record producer and founder of the New York City record label Shimmy-Disc...
at the latter's Noise New York studio, and a live date at The Cat Club in New York City. A band was then assembled that included Kramer on bass, Steve Dasinger from Board's own band Artless on drums, and J Mascis
J Mascis
J Mascis is an American musician, best known as the singer, guitarist and songwriter for Dinosaur Jr.. In 2011, he was ranked in Rolling Stone's list of the 100 greatest guitarists of all time.- Biography :...
of Dinosaur Jr
Dinosaur Jr
Dinosaur Jr. is an American alternative rock band formed in Amherst, Massachusetts in 1984. Originally called Dinosaur, prior to legal issues that forced the group to change their name, the band disbanded in 1997 until reuniting in 2005...
on lead guitar. The backing band would later be collectively named on the sleeve note as "The New York Superscum".
According to Board's liner notes for Allin's posthumous studio album Brutality and Bloodshed for All
Brutality and Bloodshed for All
Brutality and Bloodshed for All is the final studio album by GG Allin. Released in 1993, all of the songs on this album were written while Allin was in Jackson State Prison. Backing band was the Murder Junkies.-Style:...
(1993), Allin arrived at the studio carrying a big bottle of Jim Beam
Jim Beam
Jim Beam is a brand of bourbon whiskey produced in Clermont, Kentucky. It is currently one of the best selling brands of bourbon in the world. Since 1795 , seven generations of the Beam family have been involved in whiskey production for the company that produces the brand, which was given the name...
whiskey that was already about seven-eights empty, and in a rather visibly disheveled condition from not having bathed or cut his hair in quite some time. The recording session doubled as a rehearsal for the night's performance; at the beginning of one of the new recordings, Allin is heard giving an instruction to the band on how many times to play a particular song's introduction. The session didn't go completely without a hitch, however, as Allin reportedly broke one of the studio microphones by headbutting it and then, in Board's words, "tried to break the studio floor with his head."
After the recording session/rehearsal concluded, Allin, Board, and the band then went to the Cat Club for the evening's performance, which would also be recorded. A few hours before the show GG met up with Peter Yarmouth and his bodyguard Don Schlock as both came up to NYC for the show. They walked around the lower east side and visited with David Peel. Yarmouth was a big fan of Peel in the 70's and wanted to meet him. So they went to Peels apartment and it ended with Peel and GG arguing and both Allin and Schlock urinated on Peel's apartment door. Schlock then dared GG to defecate on stage and GG bought some Ex-Lax at a deli while Schlock ordered a tongue sandwich.Schlock while eating told GG he would pay him 20 bucks if he took a dump onstage. Yarmouth and Schlock along with GG then proceeded to the club with none of them knowing this show would be the one show that kicked GG's infamous career off. Before the group's set began, Allin reportedly told Board, "It should be a good show tonight - I just ate an entire box of Ex-Lax
Laxative
Laxatives are foods, compounds, or drugs taken to induce bowel movements or to loosen the stool, most often taken to treat constipation. Certain stimulant, lubricant, and saline laxatives are used to evacuate the colon for rectal and/or bowel examinations, and may be supplemented by enemas under...
." GG was running in place as he waited for the show to start to keep it in. Predictably, the show itself came to a halt when Allin began it by defecating onstage before the set began. GG was wearing a jockstrap and dog collar only. Sure enough, a couple of songs into the performance,GG began to toss the feces into the audience and he hit a guy in the head with the microphone stand. The club's owner ordered bouncers to bodily remove the vocalist from the club. GG then rubbed himself with the feces and most of the bouncers refused to toss him out so the set lasted a bit longer. As a result, The set was only 3 songs long and only those songs from the live performance, "Blood For You" ,"Ass Fuckin' Butt Lickin' Cunt Suckin' Masturbation" and one other, were usable enough for the album. The other cuts with the New York Superscum - new recordings of "Drink Fight And Fuck" and a "new" cut (apparently improvised) entitled "Ten Year Old Fuck" - were done during the recording/rehearsal session. This Cat Club show was reported in The Village Voice and it got a lot of mileage for GG as he was in the letters section of that publication for a month or more. The rest of the underground/punk music press started paying a lot more attention to GG (most of it trashing him not praising him). "I can not think of a show that had more impact on his career" Peter Yarmouth.
To further simulate a live performance, Board used stage monologues from a cassette recording of a 1985 performance Allin had done in Dallas, Texas
Dallas, Texas
Dallas is the third-largest city in Texas and the ninth-largest in the United States. The Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex is the largest metropolitan area in the South and fourth-largest metropolitan area in the United States...
with a local pickup band called The Texas Nazis; the full recording would later be released by Black & Blue Records as Boozin' And Pranks other Black & Blue recordings Yarmouth agreed Allin could use on this release are also on this release. Messages from Allin's answering machine also appear on the album, as does a message left by Allin on Board's own machine. [Actually, all the messages were from MY answering machine. The other info is correct.-- Mykel Board]
In 1998, ROIR reissued Hated in the Nation on compact disc, adding a radio commercial for Always Was, Is And Always Shall Be and three other cuts from the same era covered on the original cassette.
Original 1987 cassette
- The original cassette retitled some of the tracks in order to get the cassette into retail stores easier.
Side one
- "Intro" (M. Board)
- "Stimulation"
- "I Wanna Fuck Myself" (listed as "Myself")
- "Bite It You Scum" (listed as "Bite It")
- "You Hate Me & I Hate You"
- "GG's Phone Machine"
- "Blood For You"
- "Hard Candy Cock" (listed as "Hard Candy")
- "Eat My Shit" (listed as "Eat My Leftovers")
- "Scumfuck Tradition" (listed as "Tradition")
Side two
- "Drink, Fight and Fuck" (listed as "D F & F")
- "Needle Up My Cock" (listed as "Needle")
- "Sluts in the City"
- "Ten Year Old Fuck" (listed as "Ten Year Old")
- "Ass Fuckin' Butt Suckin' Cunt Lickin' Masturbation" (listed as "Multiple Forms of Self-Satisfaction")
- "Gimme Some Head (listed as "Gimme Some", Allin's collaboration with Wayne KramerWayne Kramer (guitarist)Wayne Kramer is an American guitarist, singer, songwriter, producer and film and television scorer....
and Dennis ThompsonDennis Thompson (drummer)Dennis Thompson is the drummer with the 1960s/1970s Detroit proto-punk/hard rock group MC5, which had a #82 US single with "Kick Out The Jams" and a #30 US album with the same name....
of the MC5MC5The MC5 is an American rock band formed in Lincoln Park, Michigan and originally active from 1964 to 1972. The original band line-up consisted of vocalist Rob Tyner, guitarists Wayne Kramer and Fred "Sonic" Smith, bassist Michael Davis, and drummer Dennis Thompson...
) - "Tough Fuckin' Shit" (listed as "T.F.S.")
- "Board's Phone Machine"
1998 CD reissue
- "Intro" (M. Board)
- "Stimulation"
- "I Wanna Fuck Myself"
- "Bite It You Scum"
- "You Hate Me & I Hate You"
- "GG's Phone Machine"
- "Blood for You"
- "Hard Candy Cock"
- "Eat My Shit"
- "Scumfuck Tradition"
- "Drink, Fight and Fuck"
- "Needle Up My Cock"
- "Sluts in the City"
- "Ten Year Old Fuck"
- "Ass Fuckin' Butt Suckin' Cunt Lickin' Masturbation"
- "Gimme Some Head"
- "Tough Fuckin' Shit"
- "Board's Phone Machine"
- "Radio Ad for GG's 1st Record"
- "Out for Blood"
- "I Wanna Eat You Out"
- "Pissing on Cosloy" (aka "I Wanna Piss on You")
External links
- Hated in the Nation on ROIRROIRROIR , or Reach Out International Records, is a New York City-based record label founded in 1979 by Neil Cooper.ROIR was founded the same year that the Sony Walkman launched, and initially, the label exclusively distributed its releases in cassette format...