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KennyJames22
"I don't want to believe. I want to know." -Carl Sagan.

For truth you can check, go to TruthContest -- c0m and open ~The Present.~ It says what the evidence says, and nothing else.
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lucaspa
Replied to:  "I don't want to believe. I want to know." -Carl Sagan....
You seem to be posting this in every thread you can. Yes, it is truth we can check. When we do, we find it is false.

"Charles Darwin revealed how evolution works, but not what it really means.

Evolution is no longer just a theory; it has been proven true beyond a reasonable doubt. The problem is, even people who accept evolution is true disassociate themselves from the process. They somehow skipped all the lower forms of animal life and just started out at the top of the evolutionary ladder."

There is no "evolutionary ladder". Evolution is not "progress" to our species. The American Museum of Natural History portrays it more accurately: a large circle with living species on the circumference and the extinct species within the circle.

So, the first paragraph contains a falsehood about evolution.

"The evidence says we evolved as life evolved.

Human beings did not just appear at the top of the evolutionary ladder to reap the benefits of those millions of years of evolution without having to live through it.

In other words, you were those other animals. Someone had to be them."

This is not evolution. Our species -- H. sapiens -- evolved from H. heidelbergensis over a period of 250,000 to about 100,000 years ago.

Think about this on a personal level. According to this idea, I personally did not "just appear" as this generation to "reap the benefits" of all my human ancestors. The first Lucas for my family arrived in Maryland from England in 1684. Did I have to be that ancestor? NO!

No living person or member of H. sapiens had to be any earlier species. The idea that "someone had to live through it" or "Someone had to be them" is a logical does-not-follow.

"You had to be lower animals to be a human now. You lived as all the different animals in your evolutionary line. You lived through millions of years, and millions of lives and deaths to get to where you are now. That's what Darwin's book means."

Really? I had to live through all the lives and deaths of every Lucas in America since 1684? How about my grandfather? He was alive when I was born? How could I live his life when I was alive?

Origin of Species does NOT mean this. Nonsense. Each individual of each species is a separate life. Evolution happens to POPULATIONS of individuals, not the individual itself.

"In addition to the fossil evidence, the genetic code proves that all animals, including us, evolved from bacteria over the last 700 million years on earth.

In other words, you were a microbe, an insect, a fish, a dinosaur, an ape..."

I am a unique combination of alleles (forms of genes). Many of those GENES didn't exist back then. For instance, I have at least 13 types of collagen, each with their own genes. Bacteria have NO collagen. Fish have only 3 or four. What's more, insects and dinosaurs are NOT on the family tree for humans! They are branches. Yes, we share a common ancestor with dinosaurs, but we did NOT evolve from dinosaurs. Our common ancestor was a species of reptile.

As I said, each of us is a unique combination of alleles. Since that combination NEVER EXISTED BEFORE, WE never existed before. For instance, my father has a mutation that resulted in his having 2 renal arteries. No other human I know of has 2 renal arteries. No other species has 2 renal arteries. Therefore, I personally could not have been any of those.

If you want to believe in reincarnation, do so. But don't tell us this belief derives from evolution. That is false.

At the beginning of the page "The Present" is a quote from Einstein:
"A man should look for what is and not for what he thinks should be."

Yes, Einstein was right that we should look for "what is". This website is all about "what he thinks should be". It violates the very principle Einstein was talking about. When we check this "truth", we find it is false.

Sagan did want to know. However, in the end Sagan BELIEVED some things. In this case, the website is presenting something it wants to believe.
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