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2011jaba
I do not want to offend ANY one , but I heard swaggert I believe say that in the corran it says blacks and mexicans will not inter into their heaven,He quoted a verse does any one know this or heard of this?
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D1vidRab
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Islam was never racially prejudiced! There were times when cultural prejudice was admited, and Arab cultured persons were held in greater regard than local people in their enourmus Colonial Empire! Initially Arab Musslimims were a meritocracy, an individual was valued on his real merit primarily; great heros of Islam, such as Tariq for which Gibraltar is named, was not an Arab, but a Berber! Racially non-semitic like Arabs, and perhaps related to the same race as the ancient pharos. After the split between Abbasids and Ummayads, the social changes caused the development of an Aristocracy, when Land and Land tittles subsituted the nomadic values of the original Beduwin culture. These New Aristocrats considered they were above the ordinary people and for that reason they were selected by Allah to be rich and in control! These Aristocratic influences continued to operate into the 20th century! The Arab Democratic Rebellion occurring today shows clearly that there is a change in the Aristocracy-led government concept; such that I think the man in the street has begun doubting the Aristocratic self-appointed representatives of Allah on Earth and that Islam will change before an all-out war between Aristocrats and the Masses or even between Shia and Sunni occurrs. Islam seems to be evolving parallel, but about 700 years delayed from Christianity! The time has come for Islam to have a "protestant reformation" equivalent. Wether this reform will come through an Islamic derived religious sect such as Sufis or Bahai, etc; or the creation of a secular "modern" democratic philosophy immitating Western Europe or even their much feared Israel, whose substantial Arab minorities, both Christian and Musslim will beguin to influence the now communicating and internet savy youth in Islam that must be influenced by the stupidity of the "Classic" Far-Left Philosophy such as Marxism-Lenninism giving support to such as Ghadafy etc. in these times when Wilkileaks has shown what immoral thieves the self-appointed Aristocracies that replaced European Colonialism have turned out to be! This means they will not be attracted by the failed communist system, but will look for something else to change to! I think it will be for the better for all humans!
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snowflower
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Everyone will enter the heaven accept anyone that refused His- directive. The refused of Allah is pray to Allah, reading qoran and do good things...
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snowflower
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as i know the quran never says that black and mexican will not enter heaven.i believe there is a verse in the quran that says "on that day(the judgement day where all humans will be counted his or her good/bad deeeds)there will be people with white face and black face(this is not refering to the colour of skin but white face means good and clean heart=result of doing good deeds and black means dark and dirty heart=result of doing bad deeds.to back this up there is anothere verse that says "bless and safe for who return to their god with good clean heart".quran also says Allah is the creator of all and will not be unfair to anyone.
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chuckla
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I don't know of such a quote in the Quran. Muhhammad had many African converts to Islam, why would they be denied entrance to Heaven? Mexicans didn't come along until the Spanish came to the New World (America) and mingled with the native population centuries after the Quran was delivered by the Prophet Muhhammad. There are two types of Moslems: General and Specific. To be a Moslem in the general sense requires that you SUBMIT TO GOD and that you FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF ANY OF THE GREAT PROPHETS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN. The Prophets of the Quran are pretty much the Prophets of the Old and New Testament. Thus if you submit to God (Islam translated into English is literally, "Submission to God") and follow the example and teachings of Moses you are actually a Moslem in the general sense. If you SUBMIT TO GOD AND FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE SPECIFIC PROPHET, MUHHAMMAD, you are a Moslem in the specific sense. Whether you are Black or Mexican has not a thing to do with it. Jimmy Swaggart (is he still alive?), like all Evangelical Christians is very confused about the Quran. tks, chuck
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Cyberella
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Whoever says Muhammad was black must be killed…(Ash-Shifa, Tr. Aisha Abdarrahman, 2004)

Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, "Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. (ibid, p.375)

In one Hadith, Mohammed referred to Blacks as Raisn Heads (Sahih Al Bukhary vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256), and as pug nosed slaves in Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47.
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