After two years of the Chicken Hawk vet stop it appears that that will become regular spot that will replace Foresthill in the future. A large piece is RE has been set aside for that use, all it needs is a lot of money to make the improvements needed. With that change the route from there to Francisco's will be quite a long ride. I wonder how that will change the pull rate at Francisco stop. I am thinking that the spot where there was a water tub about half way through the Todd Valley bypass could or may well be expanded to accomodate pulls there. It is not an easy dirt road out of there.